Why are bards / Mechanists so... Sensitive? <_<

[Eidolon]

Are we still humoring OP with his entitlement complex? I don't see him learning anytime soon.

Cute, nothing entitled about it. Insensitive, perhaps - but entitled? I don't think that word means what you think it means

[Yellow]

Honestly, I think people are getting a little bit too attached if they're getting offended over something as light as 'Ew Bard'. I mean, I could understand if it was something more substantially and to the extent you were being excluded from things because of your job, but some people on this game need to learn to lighten up.

Also calling OP entitled is honestly so entertaining. Do you guys even know what that means? Hahaha, oh my.

[RiceisNice]

Honestly, I think people are getting a little bit too attached if they're getting offended over something as light as 'Ew Bard'. I mean, I could understand if it was something more substantially and to the extent you were being excluded from things because of your job, but some people on this game need to learn to lighten up.

Also calling OP entitled is honestly so entertaining. Do you guys even know what that means? Hahaha, oh my.

Except this is happening. Definitely so on my server, and most likely on others such as levi. Honestly, it's at the point that I really don't want to put up with more crap in DF, since I've actually gotten kicked out of a aery run because DPS (me) died to sable price not being killed in time. I'm just not going to bother if people are going to give me a hard time (jokingly or not ,because this is incredibly hard to tell with complete strangers over text).

[Eidolon]

Except this is happening. Definitely so on my server, and most likely on others such as levi. Honestly, it's at the point that I really don't want to put up with more crap in DF, since I've actually gotten kicked out of a aery run because DPS (me) died to sable price not being killed in time. I'm just not going to bother if people are going to give me a hard time (jokingly or not ,because this is incredibly hard to tell with complete strangers over text).

God I die to sable prince so much. Usually because DPS is bad or they just ignore it ~3~ I know your pain there. If it helps any, I always break it near instantly on DRG <3

[Eidolon]

(Forgive me, no edit on phone)

As for it already happening... Honestly, I can't question your experiences. But I know on raid content and likewise on the EX's I cleared, I always want a BRD or MCH. I think that's why they say you're not being disincluded - no good player worth your time on meaningful content is going to disinclude you. Your spot as Support-DPS is too vital.

[RiceisNice]

God I die to sable prince so much. Usually because DPS is bad or they just ignore it ~3~ I know your pain there. If it helps any, I always break it near instantly on DRG <3

The thing is, I've gotten blamed for the price not dying soon enough, even though I was the one trapped in it. Their only basis was that because I was a machinist (and probably piss-poor dps.) Part finders regularly exclude MCH (sometimes bards even), and I sometimes get flank when the party cant break warlord shell (and we have five dps.

Eithercase, you probably browse around the forums, so you should at least have an idea on what the current state of BRD/MCH currently is, I've never actually seen parties that out go out of their way to exclude DRG or SMNs out of shiva EX or static/sub positions for FCoB.

[Eidolon]

snips!.

For the second half that is true... now. But pre-buffs? DRG\\'s were pretty undesirable. Was hard to find a team as one. And even when you did? You were expected to underperform :/ can\\'t tell you how many times I out do monks and its treated more like a monk making a mistake than a dragoon being good.

I\\'ve not seen a PF do this yet? But I\\'ll check today. Won\\'t deny i only want one - a hard or mechanist. But that\\'s standard comp.

I have, however, seen FCOB farms lock it to MNK/NIN only. Like I said - your mileage may vary. Won't deny what you experience

[Ramath]

Don't forget that most of these BRDs and MCNs are decent players. Not all, I know. But most of them play just as well, or better than any other DPS in the game. However, they are in the worst place ever all because SE screwed up. They didn't do anything wrong other than get excited about a job that SE failed to implement.

Yet, the other players around them seem to find it cool to cause issues to make themselves look/feel better...
...in a video game...
...over an issue they had no hand in creating...

I'll make fun of myself in dungeons, occasionally, but only after I've proven part way through that I'm doing a better job than my DPS counterpart. You're forgetting, OP, that you're making fun of someone for something that is completely out of their hands, and more importantly, out of your hands. It's not by any amazing ability on your part that SE make your job viable. On top of that, they are trying not to join the brainless bandwagon and only play the flavor of the month.

I find it particularly annoying when I come across people trying to rag on me for playing MCN while I'm currently out-playing them. Yet, just because they were too cowardly to try and play something other than the most broken OP job of the moment, they seem to think they have a free pass as being better than me. Sadly, I'm currently out parsing about half of the DPS I'm paired with. As much as I wish it was due to me being a good player, I can't deny the fact that it's almost always due to the fact that they truly and utterly suck. Yet these are the players who are most vocal about claiming to be better than my MCN...

...the MCN that is still alive at the end of the fight, and who passed the DPS check while they were kissing the dirt.

[IfritReborn]

I've read through this entire thread and what I've taken away from it is that the OP has an incredibly disgusting and toxic attitude and refuses to even acknowledge the situation BRDs and MCHs are in.

I would've left too, I already feel like I'm bringing groups down and to hear something like that right off the bat is not warranted or fair.

[ihatevnecks]

Because weather or not they stay with the party is an inconsequential matter to me. If they choose to eat a 30 minute debuff timer + Que time because they decided to get their panties in a twist, well... That's unfortuante for them, but not really a thing that bothers me at all. They'll be replaced in sub-2minutes time with a DPS who doesn't bawl at the slightest poke.

It bothers you so little that you have to continue your dickish behavior by making a forum post about it, further insisting how you're not the one at fault here and it's all on them. Right.