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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    I support gender lock outfits. Those gentleman suit, gambler set and arabic glamour that always have access for woman because "Yeah woman suits well with those outfit, why can't this outfit become unisex? UNISEX OR RIOT PERIOD" while bunny ears and loincloth for male is disgusting for society because "Ew wut? It's totally not makes sense for male using that because it looks gay. You only looks good in full armor and robe."
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    Chaghatani Buduga
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    I really can't believe I read arguments about people are forced to look at too naked male characters and are offended this way. How about stop posting your bigotry nonsense because I am forced to look at it and I have true reason to be offended by your 14th century behaviour. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitemare View Post
    I really can't believe I read arguments about people are forced to look at too naked male characters and are offended this way. How about stop posting your bigotry nonsense because I am forced to look at it and I have true reason to be offended by your 14th century behaviour. Thanks.
    Believe it or not, straight males don't exactly enjoy looking at half-naked dudes, it's not really "bigotry". That being said, they should still design gear with both genders in mind, so they don't cater just to female characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelg View Post
    Believe it or not, straight males don't exactly enjoy looking at half-naked dudes, it's not really "bigotry". That being said, they should still design gear with both genders in mind, so they don't cater just to female characters.
    Believe it or not ... maybe I dont enjoy looking at half nakd females too? WHO ever talked about the kind of sexuality that prefers this or that look??! That alone is enough sign of bigotry. The difference between us seems to be nothing more than tolarance. So yes I pretty much get a vibe of bigotry here :3 Btw how about some female players like to have a half naked male char the same as some male players like to have a half naked female char. Stop acting like we want something noone else has. Equal right for all.
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    Last edited by Whitemare; 07-05-2015 at 10:49 PM.

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    Mills Lugae
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    I just want to wear bunny ears damn it. Guys can be bunnies too! T^T
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHGlobbd View Post
    Because you speak for every male character, right?
    Do you? She never said /all/ male characters want. She said male characters want. As in more than one. And considering the amount of people posting agreements with the OP in this thread who have male avatars, I'd say she's right.
    Not every player of female characters wants to dress them in the skimpiest of clothes available, yet such skimpy clothing exists. Not every female character wears the female-only outfits. I don't see how they have any more right to said gear -- after all, it's not every female character who wants them, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelg View Post
    Believe it or not, straight males don't exactly enjoy looking at half-naked dudes, it's not really "bigotry". That being said, they should still design gear with both genders in mind, so they don't cater just to female characters.
    It kinda is when the people posting such things then refuse to accept that others don't care to look at their notion of sexy. Or that there's any sort of similarity between their argument and 'I don't want to look at half-naked women'. It's fine to have the opinion of not wanting to see something, but to use that opinion as an argument to try to prevent others from seeing what they want to see... that's not fair.

    It's not always straight males who play male characters. It's not always straight women who play female characters. You have people of pretty much every gender and sexuality playing either gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    It's not always straight males who play male characters. It's not always straight women who play female characters. You have people of pretty much every gender and sexuality playing either gender.
    It is somehow funny and sad at the same time that there are still people out there that don't get this at all. Your post is on point Noxifer.

    Now imagine a gay male player playing a female character dressed up to be the most serious warrior or a lesbian player playing as skimpy dressed male Au Ra coloured in the most bright pastel rainbow colours you can imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    It kinda is when the people posting such things then refuse to accept that others don't care to look at their notion of sexy. Or that there's any sort of similarity between their argument and 'I don't want to look at half-naked women'. It's fine to have the opinion of not wanting to see something, but to use that opinion as an argument to try to prevent others from seeing what they want to see... that's not fair. It's not always straight males who play male characters. It's not always straight women who play female characters. You have people of pretty much every gender and sexuality playing either gender.
    I was more referring to why people are so outspoken against this. I am actually very aware that people don't play their own character's gender, but I also believe a good sum of the players are indeed male, and straight(which is probably why people are mostly okay with females getting more options than males).

    Honestly though, don't care what people do with their character. To each his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelg View Post
    I was more referring to why people are so outspoken against this. I am actually very aware that people don't play their own character's gender, but I also believe a good sum of the players are indeed male, and straight(which is probably why people are mostly okay with females getting more options than males).

    Honestly though, don't care what people do with their character. To each his own.
    True, a majority of MMO players are male, though it's far from the 95% majority some people still quote. That may have been the numbers a bunch of years ago, but I think the numbers I saw last were somewhere around 60/40. In general across MMORPG. And if you consider that FFXIV has been said several times (that I've read, at least) to be more attractive to female players compared to other MMORPGs... it's probably more even here than in other games.
    (Also, gender measurement doesn't take into consideration either sexuality or aesthetic preferences, and while the societal norm is still 'heterosexual', the societal norm also puts 'gamer' as a minority... *shrugs*)

    But yes, I agree with your 'to each his own' (or her own). The problem is that for some of us -- not saying most or even half -- 'his/her own' is unavailable. =/
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    Last edited by Noxifer; 07-06-2015 at 04:16 AM.

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    This isn't just entirely about giving male characters dresses. If that's what a player wants, why can't they?

    No, the bigger deal is options. There's a ton more style options for people who play female characters, than male characters. I'd like other stuff to glamour. And if they're going to make 2x female only stuff, then I want equivalent amount of male only stuff.
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