Getting refused to EX groups as a DRK

[Giantbane]

...Which brings up another significant issue that the other tanks don't have to deal with: DRK's defenses can end up having a fairly heavy drain on its offensive abilities. In fights where you have to make that choice, DRK's only potentially valuable trait as a tank, supposedly higher damage as MT, takes a nosedive. Having to pick and choose between survival or damage takes a huge toll on the class.

This also applies to WAR. PLD is the only job that can't trade defenses for more damage.

You realize the reciprocal of 4/5(80% or more commonly the damage the pld/drk takes) is 5/4 which makes the oath's a 1.25 effective hp btw while WARs stay at 1.2. Yes this is very basic math indeed. . .

Additionally you cannot raw intuition the manipulator in a4. Did you miss the point where I said only in the context of a fight like a4? O.o

His math is wrong, but the idea is right. Defiance increases hp by 25% not 20%, so oath, grit and defiance all end up raising your eHP to 125%. Rampart, inner beast and shadowskin also raise your eHP by 25%. Thrill raises your eHP by 20%, so it's a little weaker. But it's still strong enough that you need to include it when talking about major defensive cooldowns.