Getting refused to EX groups as a DRK

[PerihVashai]

WAR is actually really good against Perpetual as it comes out in bursts. You can Equilibrium after one comes out to heal yourself for a good chunk. You can also Infuriate + Inner beast the 2nd/3rd Perpetual to take advantage of the IB heal as well for once. DA+Dark Mind is really good here but I don't think it's miles ahead of what WAR can offer. DA+Dark Mind + Shadowskin is about as good as Inner Beast + Vengeance. As for PLD, they can also HG to easily negate once set of Perpetuals, but their mitigation against magic damage is admittedly weaker (PLDs were weaker against Ahk Morn compared to WAR as well).

DRK can living dead the later ones as well with close to no penalty if benediction is up. IB is weaker than souleater as well. WAR is by no means miles behind but DRK is ahead, not to mention the group would benefit more by having a WAR OT DPS in this current meta.

Not really relevant slight derail:

(PLDs were weaker against Ahk Morn compared to WAR as well).

It really depends on what your CD prioritization was if you did
1st: WAR IB/VENG PLD RAMP/SENT
2nd: Holmgang
3rd: Hallowed
4th: War IB/VENG PLD RAMP SENT
PLD is ahead at this point
5th: Holmgang, need pld to stack for the first hit though.
Needless to say this is probably the best way to do it from a CD perspective imo. However most people don’t do this nor would I trust the 5th ahkmorn to be done like that in a pug haha

edit:

Pair Thrill with a cross class Convalescence and it works exactly like another shadowskin (except it's equivalent to 17% mitigation, so it's a little weaker).

The thing about WAR is they can have SP up all the time (a little stronger than delerium, and you can have a MNK put it up) and they can have inner beast up for every tank buster. Sure inner beast only lasts 6s, but you can use it at least 3x more often than you can use DA + Dark Mind. Then, on top of that, they've got vengeance and thrill of battle+convalescence at relatively low cooldowns, so that helps too. I think this puts them on par with DRK against magical damage. I don't think it necessarily makes them *better* but it at least makes them equivalent.

Thrill of battle isn't mitigation its a self heal, which can increase the mp efficiency. I'm not sure if you're implying conv + thrill stack because that's not the case? DRK also gains access to conv as well. The implication wasn't to drop the WAR but to lose the PLD. Keep in mind though when you start factoring in self heals sure they help out for big hitters but they don't continue to mitigate past that point where CDS like dark mind and rampart do etc.

Also just to make sure everyone's on the same page the context here is A4 and nothing else btw.