Getting refused to EX groups as a DRK

[Krissey]

Okay, nobody ever mentions Bloodbath and Foresight, which I use regularly on cooldown. Are they really that awful that nobody mentions them even once?

[SpookyGhost]

Okay, nobody ever mentions Bloodbath and Foresight, which I use regularly on cooldown. Are they really that awful that nobody mentions them even once?

Foresight is ok, but it's not a tank buster CD. Bloodbath usually leads to overhealing, or just healing too little - it's semi-useful under offensive buffs to alleviate fluff damage a bit but that's about as far as it goes.

[Krissey]

Foresight is ok, but it's not a tank buster CD. Bloodbath usually leads to overhealing, or just healing too little - it's semi-useful under offensive buffs to alleviate fluff damage a bit but that's about as far as it goes.

I thought this whole argument was "overall mitigation", and Foresight reduces damage right? So that's mitigation. I just feel like, if we're going to argue for 7 pages over precisely every little detail of mitigation, any amount of damage reduced or damage recovered, even 1, might be important to be completely fair?

Maybe I am missing the point

[SpookyGhost]

I thought this whole argument was "overall mitigation", and Foresight reduces damage right? So that's mitigation. I just feel like, if we're going to argue for 7 pages over precisely every little detail of mitigation, any amount of damage reduced or damage recovered, even 1, might be important to be completely fair?

Maybe I am missing the point

Well, everyone can kinda use Foresight, the only thing the trait does is shorten the recast time (120s -> 90s). Foresight is also physical defense only, so would be useless against magic attacks. But yeah, over the course of a physical-based fight, a WAR would probably end up mitigating a bit more damage with some extra Foresights.

[Krissey]

Well, everyone can kinda use Foresight, the only thing the trait does is shorten the recast time (120s -> 90s). Foresight is also physical defense only, so would be useless against magic attacks. But yeah, over the course of a physical-based fight, a WAR would probably end up mitigating a bit more damage with some extra Foresights.

I just feel bad for Foresight. Nobody ever talks about him but he's my buddy and I use him on cooldown, every time, whether tanking trash or tanking bosses. I like to combine him with Bloodbath, then do a few overpowered strikes to get that healing going.

However that's just a habit I've fallen in to, also I only do that combo on trash packs. Otherwise I do the Bloodbath+Foresight thing on main boss with Unchained and break out all the cooldowns.

Edit: Does Convalescence effect help or combine well with Bloodbath?

I usually do Bloodbath+Foresight together, and use Thrill of Battle+Convalescence+Second Wind together, and use Vengeance on its own. Inner Beast every 5 stacks, and use Infuriate+Inner Beast on cooldown.

Am I doing it wrong?

[PWilson]

Okay, nobody ever mentions Bloodbath and Foresight, which I use regularly on cooldown. Are they really that awful that nobody mentions them even once?

Sshhhhh.
When someone talks about "damage mitigation" and "eHP" to emphasize the work that the healer has to do, while breathlessly comparing the classes and ignoring Bloodbath, I giggle a little inside.
/ and I'm a plaid, not even a wore

Really, a spirited discussion like this is the result of some really good balancing work on SE's part.