Getting refused to EX groups as a DRK

[Faytte]

Defiance and grit are the same thing. Not sure why you think grit multiplies into other cool downs better than Defiance. This is false, blows hitting you do the same percent damage of your total life pool, therfore cds behave the same. When a war and drk in tank stance pop - 30% damage buffs, it effects them the very same.

[Kalma51]

Are people forgetting about Warriors 10% parry in this stance. 20% dmg reduction up every 20sec for 6sec? Sorry but Grit doesn't really compare to War Defiance

[Agrieus]

Are people forgetting about Warriors 10% parry in this stance. 20% dmg reduction up every 20sec for 6sec? Sorry but Grit doesn't really compare to War Defiance

Because as soon as 5 stacks of wrath are up they're almost immediately used on something so the parry boost doesn't really account for much. And it's for physical attacks so it's not damage reduction because last I checked, parry doesn't do anything for magic attacks (which is also why a DA Dark Dance is meant for magic attacks - because you won't be parrying these anyways. The cost is just a little on the high side). So since it doesn't do anything in terms of magic damage, it's just like foresight.

[shinros]

Keep complaining about DRK I want to be OP.

[Violette]

As a dark knight main, nothing shits me more than having to spend my mp to make my dark mind worth using. I know you'll say "what else will you spend your mana on". Well, when main tanking I'll spend it on:
Bonus enmity on Power so I can siphon more often.
Bonus health drain from soul eater.
Upkeep of Darkside so my dps ain't shocking.

Want to compare dps? Look at dark knight's MT dps.

[Ipkonfig]

Tanking with both WAR/DRK now, WAR is squishier than DRK, and if WAR stance dances to use Fel Cleave they are even squishier since a big part of a WAR's mitigation is Inner Beast. Also there is SOOOOO much magic in Alex Dark Mind is fantastic! DPS wise, if a WAR spends all their time in Deliverance they are about equal with DRK, without Grit (assuming they both have slashing debuff). MTing DPS, DRK is higher than WAR assuming the WAR spends all their time in Defiance and uses all stacks on Unchained/Inner Beast.

Warrior is a lot easier to play, and their burst is amazing with Fel Cleave. I went warrior in Floor 4 because the burst was great since you spent such little time on the boss, because of quarantine.

Of course DRK will drain TP in any sustained fight while WAR has pretty solid sustain, assuming you use Equilibrium for TP. I did like using it for healing in Floor 4 though because of the orb damage.

[Kaedan]

Tanking with both WAR/DRK now, WAR is squishier than DRK, and if WAR stance dances to use Fel Cleave they are even squishier since a big part of a WAR's mitigation is Inner Beast. Also there is SOOOOO much magic in Alex Dark Mind is fantastic! DPS wise, if a WAR spends all their time in Deliverance they are about equal with DRK, without Grit (assuming they both have slashing debuff). MTing DPS, DRK is higher than WAR assuming the WAR spends all their time in Defiance and uses all stacks on Unchained/Inner Beast.


Warrior is a lot easier to play, and their burst is amazing with Fel Cleave. I went warrior in Floor 4 because the burst was great since you spent such little time on the boss, because of quarantine.

Of course DRK will drain TP in any sustained fight while WAR has pretty solid sustain, assuming you use Equilibrium for TP. I did like using it for healing in Floor 4 though because of the orb damage.

Yup. The textbook numbers never quite represent the reality.

Okay, nobody ever mentions Bloodbath and Foresight, which I use regularly on cooldown. Are they really that awful that nobody mentions them even once?

No point mentioning them since every Tank can use them. If only 1 or 2 of the 3 tanks could use them, then it would be a point of discussion.

[Faytte]

Tanking with both WAR/DRK now, WAR is squishier than DRK

Your WAR is bad then.

[Krissey]

Okay, nobody ever mentions Bloodbath and Foresight, which I use regularly on cooldown. Are they really that awful that nobody mentions them even once?

[SpookyGhost]

Okay, nobody ever mentions Bloodbath and Foresight, which I use regularly on cooldown. Are they really that awful that nobody mentions them even once?

Foresight is ok, but it's not a tank buster CD. Bloodbath usually leads to overhealing, or just healing too little - it's semi-useful under offensive buffs to alleviate fluff damage a bit but that's about as far as it goes.