How to Decentralize Ul'dah

[Viridiana]

Plus I think it's fair to say there will be more cities added in the future. There's not enough space in the current cities to house all of the guilds for all the upcoming battle and crafting classes so over time with more content being added city populations will probably be spread out more evenly, and the market wards will be a lot better in other cities.

Doubtful, at least in regards to the MW. People aren't going to move away from what's functionally the only market in the game. Only way I see to make people stop using the Uldah MW nigh-exclusively is to link them, one way or another.

[Konachibi]

Doubtful, at least in regards to the MW. People aren't going to move away from what's functionally the only market in the game. Only way I see to make people stop using the Uldah MW nigh-exclusively is to link them, one way or another.

I'd like that, but... I seriously can't stand being in Ul'dah market wards for any prolonged period of time, that constant mass of 'foot tapping' sound effects from all those retainers drives me totally round the bend! Merging the MW would only increase the amount of retainers, which would then increase the foot tapping noise, and then I'd have to smash my speakers.

Plus we've all seen how Ul'dahs MW 'bubbles' it's retainers, merging them all together would just make it all go crazy. Which is why it'd be more beneficial for the sellers, the buyers, and my speakers, to add some kind of auction house.

[Viridiana]

I'd like that, but... I seriously can't stand being in Ul'dah market wards for any prolonged period of time, that constant mass of 'foot tapping' sound effects from all those retainers drives me totally round the bend! Merging the MW would only increase the amount of retainers, which would then increase the foot tapping noise, and then I'd have to smash my speakers.

Plus we've all seen how Ul'dahs MW 'bubbles' it's retainers, merging them all together would just make it all go crazy. Which is why it'd be more beneficial for the sellers, the buyers, and my speakers, to add some kind of auction house.

We really need a PM feature on these forums so I don't derail this thread further, but I'll just clarify one point: I meant allowing access to the wards of any city *from* any city. That is, I can hit the Uldah or LL wards from Grid, for example. This, with no other changes, would go a long way (but still isn't as much as I'd want done, ideally).

Anyway, if I responded to pretty much anything else you said, I'd wind up dragging this into off-topic territory, so I'll just /shush.

[Konachibi]

We really need a PM feature on these forums so I don't derail this thread further, but I'll just clarify one point: I meant allowing access to the wards of any city *from* any city. That is, I can hit the Uldah or LL wards from Grid, for example. This, with no other changes, would go a long way (but still isn't as much as I'd want done, ideally).

Anyway, if I responded to pretty much anything else you said, I'd wind up dragging this into off-topic territory, so I'll just /shush.

Ah I get what you mean now. Yeah, that'd actually work pretty well, especially if the item search function scanned all 3 city MW's to find the cheapest option for an item. But then why not just let people buy that item direct from the item search menu instead of having to go into the MW in the first place?

I think if they added an airship city and we could fly our own one-man airships a lot of people would hang around there instead just 'cos it'd be awesome XD

[Technolust]

Doubtful, at least in regards to the MW. People aren't going to move away from what's functionally the only market in the game. Only way I see to make people stop using the Uldah MW nigh-exclusively is to link them, one way or another.

^ This is why I think a combination of both would allow those that don't want to stay in Ul'dah an ability to still group and sell stuff but enjoy the region they want to enjoy.

[Jericho]

Ishgard will definitely be the new centralized city once it opens, and the world will be normal again.

[Viridiana]

Ishgard will definitely be the new centralized city once it opens, and the world will be normal again.

Except that it won't be, unless it links the wards. Think about it, who's going to want to be the first to go set up shop in a new market, when the existing market is still in another city? What would be the point? Unless everyone moves, you'd just have to go back, anyway. Even now, with many people branching out to Grid because their leves are better for SP, the MW in Grid is still struggling. Why? Because not enough people are setting up shop there for it to work, so people are giving up and going back to ole reliable.

Basically, unless enough people move to Ishgard for it to be self-sustaining (kinda doubtful), Uldah will continue to be the only market in this game. Even if enough people do move over, after a few months, we'll be having this same discussion, only replacing "Uldah" with "Ishgard."

[Technolust]

Except that it won't be, unless it links the wards. Think about it, who's going to want to be the first to go set up shop in a new market, when the existing market is still in another city? What would be the point? Unless everyone moves, you'd just have to go back, anyway. Even now, with many people branching out to Grid because their leves are better for SP, the MW in Grid is still struggling. Why? Because not enough people are setting up shop there for it to work, so people are giving up and going back to ole reliable.

Basically, unless enough people move to Ishgard for it to be self-sustaining (kinda doubtful), Uldah will continue to be the only market in this game. Even if enough people do move over, after a few months, we'll be having this same discussion, only replacing "Uldah" with "Ishgard."

Couldn't agree more. I really hope that other can understand the reasoning behind all of this.

[Jericho]

Except that it won't be, unless it links the wards. Think about it, who's going to want to be the first to go set up shop in a new market, when the existing market is still in another city? What would be the point? Unless everyone moves, you'd just have to go back, anyway. Even now, with many people branching out to Grid because their leves are better for SP, the MW in Grid is still struggling. Why? Because not enough people are setting up shop there for it to work, so people are giving up and going back to ole reliable.

Basically, unless enough people move to Ishgard for it to be self-sustaining (kinda doubtful), Uldah will continue to be the only market in this game. Even if enough people do move over, after a few months, we'll be having this same discussion, only replacing "Uldah" with "Ishgard."

It's not an "if"... They will move over. The majority of the population wants it to be the central hub and will move as soon as they can. The one major city you can't start in serves as a common ground. The home cities are for doing things you specifically have to in them, and for enjoying yourself in your personal home space. Questing, gathering together, forming will be done in the major city. It doesnt take much. The market is a bunch of people standing around with items in their bazaar.

Theres nothing wrong with Ish being the new space (see Jeuno).

[Viridiana]

It's not an "if"... They will move over. The majority of the population wants it to be the central hub and will move as soon as they can. The one major city you can't start in serves as a common ground. The home cities are for doing things you specifically have to in them, and for enjoying yourself in your personal home space. Questing, gathering together, forming will be done in the major city. It doesnt take much. The market is a bunch of people standing around with items in their bazaar.

Theres nothing wrong with Ish being the new space (see Jeuno).

Even if we grant that most everyone moves to Ishgard, you didn't really address the last sentence of my post. What's to keep us from having this same conversation a few months after Ishgard opens, only complaining that, "Hey, guys, I've done all I want in Ishgard. I'd like to head back to LL now"?