How to Decentralize Ul'dah

[Aenarion]

What are some other MMOs that a Free and open world chat have worked in?
I have played some dying MMOs that had it added, but I hae never played a highly populated or thriving MMO that had world chat. I mean if 5 people go to shouting in Uldah my chat window fills up. But if there is something I may chose to read or wish to know, I have to let it go so I can read what I want. I can definently see that failing when 500 people serer wide ar doing that. How would that work? (I ask this at the risk that technolust will further attempt to have me put to death, as I have learned, if you speak your opinion and it differs from his on this thread he will utilize his psychic power to tell you what you really mean.)

Eve Online does, sort of.

They have server-wide channels that are each dedicated to specific topics, such as trade, manufacturing, price check, and certain regions etc.

The thing is that players have to join those channels manually, so even though there's usually anywhere from 20k to 45k active players on (eve runs on a single shard), those channels aren't all that busy.

Mandatory channels, such as newbie help, local channels at busy trade hub etc, on the other hand, is a spam fest, you'd be hard-pressed to read anything useful through the barrage of spams.

[Technolust]

(I ask this at the risk that technolust will further attempt to have me put to death, as I have learned, if you speak your opinion and it differs from his on this thread he will utilize his psychic power to tell you what you really mean.)

Really? This again? Stay on topic, their is no need for this in your post. Thought the mods were clear?

I realize I titled my OP incorrectly, but it honestly was the best way to describe what my point was. I understand as with the rest of the players that you can never truly decentralize a hub. I'm not asking for that to happen. What I'm asking for is to allow the players to occupy other city-states without being cut off from the rest of the world. If I want to go hang out in Limsa don't 'force' (Yes, yes we all know I'm not really being forced, but all of you know what I mean) me to have to go back to Ul'dah to sell items or buy items.

I shouldn't miss out on pickup raids, or sp parties, or nm hunts just because I prefer to hang out in an area that is less congested. I think the two options I offered will help make the other two cities more populated then they are currently. I know Ul'dah will stay a hub most likely until Ishgard opens.

[Secret_Reeve]

world chat posses both good and bad points.

at end of the day a world chat is a good idea however it needs to be pretty specific with ALOT of filter option. i dont want to be sat there crafting away and not see "your preserve effect wears off" because i have more junk coming through the chat log than needed. that said i do use both chat boxes.

perhaps being able to add more tabs to the chat boxes so we can have world chat in its own chat tab would be helpful.

i cant see everyone spamming in it. /say is only really used when people are talking cross LS otherwise most people tend to stick within thier ls chat for what i've seen.

[Griss]

So you want the benefits of being in uldah, while not being there... I would suggest cloning your self.

[Karis]

So you want the benefits of being in uldah, while not being there... I would suggest cloning your self.

Or do like I had to and make a shouting ape-mule.

[Celtodeno]

...Thank you.

Today... YOU WIN!


Seriously, this must be addressed and I am sure SE is on it. They didn't take years designing LL and GA just to let them go to waste. I am sure they will do whatever it takes. A centralize market ward is definitely one of the most important pieces to making that a reality.

[Phen]

I think the link/clone wards idea is good as well as making the search function a little more global. Linked markets with the establishment of alliances seems story fit as well as a "linked" economy. Plus the Ul'dahan in me sees prosperous trade as the heart of the alliance yes?

After all, anytime I leave my glorious hometown to head to that stick and tree hovel up north its so inconvenient to have to trot back home to a proper country to grab some spare materials.

[Jinko]

Fully support this idea, one massive market ward to encompass all city states would be ideal IMO (assuming they could keep it stable) and agree with the world chat option as well, we need something to help assist in making parties until they decide to update the party search function.

[Secret_Reeve]

i dont know if this has been pointed out but theres 2 or 3 definate advantages to linking all 3 cities marks

1) allows you to view other cities retainers without having to travel to them first (in some cases only to find it doesnt have what you need)

2) encourages people to place retainers in gridania or LL

3) reduces demand on ul'dah market ward meaning people can actually summon thier retainers there if they wish to.

[Karis]

I would prefer the linked market wards over an AH system. Reason being that I don't like the system of bidding and trying not to overpay for an item that an AH would bring. I like the simple listing of items for prices.

The thing is, I wouldn't mind being able to just buy from the item search interface. The walking around to each retainer who has your items is such a waste of time for no good purpose.