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    Ipkonfig's Avatar
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    Ulfheonar Wolfhiem
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    You need to factor Royal Authority into its combo though. All of those abilities are gated by their combos so it only makes sense to average out the potency of each chain. Also Goring Blade is gated by a combo while Scourge is a stand alone 500 potency DoT.

    Royal Authority - 230 avg potency.
    Rage of Halone - 203 avg potency.

    Power Slash - 223 avg potency.
    Delirium Blade - 226 potency.
    Dark Arts + Souleater - 266 avg potency.

    Paladins also can't just spam Royal Authority if they are MT, it builds less threat and has no debuff, so they need to weave Rage of Halone in bringing their DPS down. When I DRK I have to use Power Slash with Dark Arts one time in a fight and I won't have to worry about threat anymore. From that point on my typical rotation is Dark Arts + Souleater into Delirium Blade, rinse repeat, with Blood Price on CD, regardless of how much I get hit that combo is sustainable. Average potency for DA+Souleater/Delirium Blade is 246 potency.

    Paladin's weren't given Royal Authority and Goring Blade to push them ahead in DPS, they were given them to just try and keep up.
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ipkonfig View Post
    You need to factor Royal Authority into its combo though. All of those abilities are gated by their combos so it only makes sense to average out the potency of each chain. Also Goring Blade is gated by a combo while Scourge is a stand alone 500 potency DoT.

    Royal Authority - 230 avg potency.
    Rage of Halone - 203 avg potency.

    Power Slash - 223 avg potency.
    Delirium Blade - 226 potency.
    Dark Arts + Souleater - 266 avg potency.

    Paladins also can't just spam Royal Authority if they are MT, it builds less threat and has no debuff, so they need to weave Rage of Halone in bringing their DPS down. When I DRK I have to use Power Slash with Dark Arts one time in a fight and I won't have to worry about threat anymore. From that point on my typical rotation is Dark Arts + Souleater into Delirium Blade, rinse repeat, with Blood Price on CD, regardless of how much I get hit that combo is sustainable. Average potency for DA+Souleater/Delirium Blade is 246 potency.

    Paladin's weren't given Royal Authority and Goring Blade to push them ahead in DPS, they were given them to just try and keep up.
    Nobody in their right mind is going to waste Dark Arts for attacks now. That is silly and ridiculous, you need them for your defenses. You also are missing Shield Oath's extra attack.

    I am not being silly when I say its either very close or a bit better.

    I also like how you forgot to mention Goring Blade, which is the highest damage DOT in the entire game with a combined potency of 540.

    Paladins do not need silly Arts to make their attacks good, they also don't need to drain their Mana constantly either. They also don't need to use 1/4 their mana to use a temp defensive buff.

    This is why I said actually parse it.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 07-05-2015 at 01:26 AM.

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    Seku Halvone
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ipkonfig View Post
    Paladins also can't just spam Royal Authority if they are MT
    Paladin's weren't given Royal Authority and Goring Blade to push them ahead in DPS, they were given them to just try and keep up.
    Actually Pld can spam RA if they are MT, weaving in Goring every two rotations, and then use shield swipe to keep them ahead in hate, which is over all a net gain in terms of DPS over RoH. Currently nothing in the game makes or breaks you over 10% str down, more so since we have excessive Physical damage reduction to begin with (which allows us to tank in Sword Oath).

    IIRC, if a PLD was in sword oath, which at the end could be used even as MT on everything, they were keeping pretty close to warrior all through out 2.X in DPS terms. We were given RA and GB to keep our DPS aligned, as all jobs were when they were given new DPS options. So I don't know where the "they were given these to try and keep up." is coming from.

    Whoops I mean....pld is weak. Give us more options SE oh god....we're so weak.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    You also are missing Shield Oath's extra attack.
    Not sure if I missed something or if you're just plain out mistaken. But Shield oath doesn't have an extra attack, you mean Sword oath?
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    Last edited by Seku; 07-05-2015 at 05:58 AM.

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    Dylan Wolfwoodicus
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    Not sure if I missed something or if you're just plain out mistaken. But Shield oath doesn't have an extra attack, you mean Sword oath?
    I think he means Shield Swipe intertwined between combos.
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