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    Player
    Chek's Avatar
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    Carde Graves
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    Faerie
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Pretty much just get used to having to revert back to the 2.x rotation at a moment's notice if you have to move at all. A lot of the boss fights in Neverreap and Bismarck EX in particular can be hard to keep Enochian up for too long IMHO.

    Its not that the new rotation isn't challenging, its just that its kind of exhausting. I wish Enochian wouldn't slowly decrease its maximum timer, makes it impossible to keep it going forever, which I guess might be the intent overall? Just try to keep it up for at least 20-30 seconds so you can repop it manually? Who knows.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chek View Post
    Pretty much just get used to having to revert back to the 2.x rotation at a moment's notice if you have to move at all. A lot of the boss fights in Neverreap and Bismarck EX in particular can be hard to keep Enochian up for too long IMHO.

    Its not that the new rotation isn't challenging, its just that its kind of exhausting. I wish Enochian wouldn't slowly decrease its maximum timer, makes it impossible to keep it going forever, which I guess might be the intent overall? Just try to keep it up for at least 20-30 seconds so you can repop it manually? Who knows.
    To be fair, if you could keep Enochian going forever, You wouldn't use anything but Fire/Blizzard IV and III.
    Enochian added in a layer of complexity to the otherwise stagnant BLM rotation, which seems to be a running theme with all the new job skills.
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    Natalia Grant
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Chek

    Thank you so much the help!

    I totally agree! I'm currently doing Neverreap and its really hard to do proper damage especially to the final boss xD
    All party members are flying and can't do any proper damage so i move a lot. But i try to cast Enochain anyways.

    I actually use Blizzard IV to increase Enochain's timer but its still not that long orz.

    Thank you again~
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRTtoZ View Post
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    This is how I thought the rotation was when I read tooltips. (Im still lvl 50 blm)
    And now that Ive played with a few blms , none of them follows this rotation.

    So I was confused if I understood the skills wrong. Im sure you are right though and the DF blms just dont know how to play it.
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    NozomiKei's Avatar
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    Nozomi Kay
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    Balmung
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    Sorry about the jerk, what's to say you even knew that forum existed anyhow...

    I did check over there yesterday and counted three threads filled with people panicking, and I am very inclined to do the same. This new rotation reduces our mobility even more and they've added more aoes to every fight. Playing my job has become exhausting and definitely not fun. Just about every boss fight has me cussing at some point because some dumb mechanic will interrupt my cast or three aoes will suddenly land on me at a crucial point in my rotation (although frankly with as ridiculously tight it is now every point is crucial.) Some unavoidable mechanic makes you lose Enochian? Get ready to have your dps drop by about 40%! For 30 seconds!

    I spent a couple hours figuring out how to remap my gimpy keyboard's F keys so that I could stick my 2.0 rotation on them since it looks like we're expected to completely shift back to it when enochian is down. If you play on pc you might consider doing the same.

    I enjoy a challenge but this is just miserable. I spend the whole fight staring at my timers, dodging aoe out of my peripherals, and alternately pleading with my spells and cursing at them.
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    Lady Archulak
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    So I was having a fun time reading this tread, it amused me to see people point you in the direction of the place with all the answers (DPS subfourm) and just have you casually ignore that advice. However the last 2 post from the op are absolutely too ridiculous for me to not comment on.

    You should NEVER start a rotation using bliz 4 it DOES NOT extend Enochian.

    What it does do is SET the remaining time on the buff to 5 seconds less that what it was when it was last refreshed. Meaning the first time you use bliz 4 it goes to 25 sec then 20 then next time then 15 and so on.

    Using bliz 4 at the beginning of a rotation is probably the WORST place you could ever use it. I don't even think i could make up fake BLM advice that would do more harm to your DPS than this idea.

    Unless i misunderstood what you were trying to say and that's what you were doing. If that's the case disregard this rant.

    Also IMO playing BLM is the same as it always has been progression is tough and once you have a fight down and know when to move and when not too your dps shines. It hasn't really changed all that much, also i like seeing 10k+ dmg crits in ravahna.
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    Last edited by Archulak; 07-03-2015 at 07:57 PM.

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    Izu Shizuoka
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Archulak View Post
    So I was having a fun time reading this tread, it amused me to see people point you in the direction of the place with all the answers (DPS subfourm) and just have you casually ignore that advice. However the last 2 post from the op are absolutely too ridiculous for me to not comment on.

    You should NEVER start a rotation using bliz 4 it DOES NOT extend Enochian.

    What it does do is SET the remaining time on the buff to 5 seconds less that what it was when it was last refreshed. Meaning the first time you use bliz 4 it goes to 25 sec then 20 then next time then 15 and so on.

    Using bliz 4 at the beginning of a rotation is probably the WORST place you could ever use it. I don't even think i could make up fake BLM advice that would do more harm to your DPS than this idea.

    Also IMO playing BLM is the same as it always has been progression is tough and once you have a fight down and know when to move and when not too your dps shines. It hasn't really changed all that much, also i like seeing 10k+ dmg crits in ravahna.
    Well, it looks like OP had a big misunderstanding of Enochian's skill description. Something like that happens from time to time, so it's a good thing we have the community to answer questions like these. There's no need to make fun of someone who isn't aware of all new things yet, nobody is perfect
    I see your point, of course, but it seems like OP is having a hard time with the added skills - and so do many other BLMs I have recently talked to.

    I think it'll need some time until every mage got used to our new rotation since it's a big change from what we had before.
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    Nissa E'yegha
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    Coeurl
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Sorry for being mean. There is no excuse for taking it out on anybody but I honestly had a bad day at work and was definitely not being myself.
    So for what it's worth, I truly am sorry.
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