Crafters have no right to get their own Chocobos

[Dreadnought]

Only leatherwork require battle class. There are many people out there just do Fishing & Alchemy, Mining & Smithing. Why they can't get their own chocobo. They pay as much as you do, and they may spend more time than you to level their characters. Can you explain why they can't get their own chocobo?

because they are no longer considered as classes equal to DOM/DOW, it really is that simple.
public chocobos are accessable to any crafter/gatherer R10+.
if you want something then you have to work for it. again, it really is this simple, your class is not equal to mine.
both in Final Fantasy lore and in real life Chocobos are used as war steeds. at what point in time is a war steed required by an exclussive full time crafter/gatherer?

[Aykatu]

First, lol.

Second, I don't think I have ever seen so much whining about a game than on these forums. It seems that no matter what SE does, people just feel the urge to say how horrible it is.

Perhaps they have a plan. Just maybe, Yoshi-P and his team have thought things through and have reasons for what they have chosen to do. I would assume, since they are employed by SE, have been working in the industry for some time, that they would have an idea of what they are doing.

I feel that Yoshi-p is busting his ass nearly everyday to recreate something while so many people just complain about almost every aspect, before it is even released. As of yet, the game is free to play and many great things have happened in the last few months. Out of respect, if you have nothing better to do than to be over critical and complain about every damn thing, please quit.



Oh, and third, lol

[Aion]

Other thread complaining we get easy way to get personal chocobo,but here we're complaining it is a "hard" thing to class a DoW/M....

Can someone point me on the content that involves crafting/gathering in GC, AT THE MOMENT? if there isnt,then why should GC give chocobo access to crafter/gatherer NOW? the option is not limited to you, you can either:
1. wait for breeding chocobo system
2. rent a chocobo
3. rank DoW/DoM

my point is, atm GC is focusing on battle content ( CMIIW ) so,for those who didnt take part on it,why complain?

[NoctisUmbra]

Linkurrra... that sig... is amazing!

[Davorok]

Someone call Reverend Al Sharptalon. It's discrimination against Fantasy Characters.

Perhaps in the not too distant future, Crafters/Gatherers will get to own a Pack-Chocobo that will walk alongside them, carrying another 200 slots of gears/materials and they will be the only Chocobos allowed in cities. (and your choco will kick the snot out of monsters in the field)

I would level up a DoH/L to 25 to get that even though I hate crafting. (I do like mining though).

[NoctisUmbra]

Someone call Reverend Al Sharptalon. It's discrimination against Fantasy Characters.

Perhaps in the not too distant future, Crafters/Gatherers will get to own a Pack-Chocobo that will walk alongside them, carrying another 200 slots of gears/materials and they will be the only Chocobos allowed in cities. (and your choco will kick the snot out of monsters in the field)

I would level up a DoH/L to 25 to get that even though I hate crafting. (I do like mining though).

Fat Chocobo ftw

[Valarian]

Many people leveled a craft just to repair their gear. Why did they do this? Because getting your gear repaired was obnoxiously difficult and broken gear was crippling. Even when I was trying to repair everyone's gear as a crafter the process was horrible, and people would walk out of range or teleport away in the middle of the process.

You weren't "rewarded" for your efforts so much as you were able to skirt past a very ugly situation that shouldn't have come about in the first place. You weren't forced to level a crafting class, no, but it was the only practical solution available, and it wasn't a very palatable one for many. Now the table is turned and all I can see is people who see it as just vengeance that a similar inconvenience is inflicted on the crafting/gathering classes.

I do not advocate that Crafters and Gatherers need to experience or play a major part in the main story line. The main story line is unsatisfying when it revolves around a tile matching game. I am only making the case that pure non-combat classes should not be excluded from speedy personal transportation for all eternity, though I can't tell that people understand that. The method of acquisition is not important. The date of implementation is not important. The concept: "Non Combat should can has personal chocobo eventually? = yes" is all I'm advocating.

If they've already said something to that effect, great. I can't find it, though, so help me out.

[NoctisUmbra]

Many people leveled a craft just to repair their gear. Why did they do this? Because getting your gear repaired was obnoxiously difficult and broken gear was crippling. Even when I was trying to repair everyone's gear as a crafter the process was horrible, and people would walk out of range or teleport away in the middle of the process.

You weren't "rewarded" for your efforts so much as you were able to skirt past a very ugly situation that shouldn't have come about in the first place. You weren't forced to level a crafting class, no, but it was the only practical solution available, and it wasn't a very palatable one for many. Now the table is turned and all I can see is people who see it as just vengeance that a similar inconvenience is inflicted on the crafting/gathering classes.

I do not advocate that Crafters and Gatherers need to experience or play a major part in the main story line. The main story line is unsatisfying when it revolves around a tile matching game. I am only making the case that pure non-combat classes should not be excluded from speedy personal transportation for all eternity, though I can't tell that people understand that. The method of acquisition is not important. The date of implementation is not important. The concept: "Non Combat should can has personal chocobo eventually? = yes" is all I'm advocating.

If they've already said something to that effect, great. I can't find it, though, so help me out.

One of the letters did mention chocobo breeding being planned somewhere down the line. I don't suspect it is anytime soon though.

As far as crafting/repairing in the early stages of the game - yes it was very inconvenient. This is the reason for all the changes being made to the crafting/repair systems. They have become much more convenient. It is not about vengeance. it is simply about the balance of effort and rewards. It is important to look forward instead of dwell on the past - especially when the game is undergoing drastic changes to remedy what was in the past.

I have nothing against content through which DoH/L can obtain personal chocobos. What I have a problem with is the argument that DoH/L should be able to enlist in Grand Companies because they want personal chocobos but they don't want to rank a battle class for a few hours to get it.

[darkstarpoet1]

Ohh snap, you've hit the nail on the head there!


Let's review--

Major new content implemented in v1.19: Materia and Chocobos

DoH exclusive players do not have immediate access to premier Chocobo content, they must work 1 DoW/M class to R25.

DoM/M exclusive players do not have immediate access to premier Materia content, they must work 1 DoH class to R18. (Or bribe another crafter to do it for them)

DoL exclusive players gain exclusive access to Materia catalysts, supplying crafters for a tidy profit.

Is it me, or did SE create an all-round timesink-o-fairness here?

Well played, SE. Well played.

ok if both are equal then where does a straight crafter go to bribe a dow to get them their personal chocobo? you point out that a battle class can bribe a crafter to make the materia for them is equal so i am just curious because i haven't seen anything about crafters could get a chocobo by paying a battle class for them.

that's like saying dow cannot equip or use their gear unless their craft rank is high enough to repair it or that battle classes cannot use gear with materia attacked unless they are high enough rank to attach it themselves.

do you see the flaw in your own argument? one way you can still get what you want without leveling another class you do not like, but the other way you cannot.

[Holland]

ok if both are equal then where does a straight crafter go to bribe a dow to get them their personal chocobo? you point out that a battle class can bribe a crafter to make the materia for them is equal so i am just curious because i haven't seen anything about crafters could get a chocobo by paying a battle class for them.

that's like saying dow cannot equip or use their gear unless their craft rank is high enough to repair it or that battle classes cannot use gear with materia attacked unless they are high enough rank to attach it themselves.

do you see the flaw in your own argument? one way you can still get what you want without leveling another class you do not like, but the other way you cannot.

I could argue that I needed to level a gathering class I did not want to level to amass that gil so in turn I could be able to bribe that crafter. So it can go both ways at the end.