Crafters have no right to get their own Chocobos

[Nuru]

Rental chocobos are not the equal of personal chocobos. They originate from only 3 points on the map. Traveling from arbitrary point to another arbitrary point is a huge step up, even if we discount that rental chocobos cost money and aren't as fast.

Grand Companies seem to hand out crafting manuals in exchange for their precious seals. This puts some significant tarnish on their pure combat shine.

Making people do things in a game that they don't want to do is a bad thing. It makes people quit. Misery can be had for free. Forcing battle classes to rank a craft to fix their gear was bad. Forcing a crafter to fight so that they can access transit is also bad.

Although this is true, it would only be fair to mention that if people wanted crafters to be just as important as DoW/M, they should also be able to experience the storyline, this being a primary issue, not Personal Chocobos.

Again, it doesn't really take long to reach rank 25 in a battle class. I have nothing against crafting and gathering classes, as one of my friends wants to craft more than battle. That's fine by me but games tend to set certain requirements and conditions before being able to experience new features. This is just one of many that requires a battle class. As Materia craft will require leveling a crafting class.

So, lets think of a way this can be handled to where crafters and gatherers can achieve their own personal chocobo..

What they can do is make a few GC quests centered towards crafters. Like they can make the supply materials for the caravan escorts. That would be great actually.. Gatherers can even play a part in that. Gathering quests.

However, most of the Grand Company content is Military-based, which in the case of the current events happening in Eorzea, means war. So GC quests should hardly be focused on DoH/L quests IMO.

Also, Coglin, I was being half sarcastic, as in, personal chocobos aren't the only chocobos available. You should also learn how to spell. /bow

Lets look at this another, more reasonable way.

In order to get your own personal chocobo, you must earn and trade in at least 3000 seals.. Period.

If you want seals, you will figure out a way to get them. Currently that means you need to complete specific quests. I'm sure other means will become available, but at this stage you must figure out what to do to earn those seals.

If you do not want to complete these specific quests, you need to either wait for new content, or ask SE for another handout.

Make your choice.

FFS, thank you for that! I think reading Coglin's posts make my brain bleed.

[Duuude007]

As Materia craft will require leveling a crafting class.

Ohh snap, you've hit the nail on the head there!


Let's review--

Major new content implemented in v1.19: Materia and Chocobos

DoH exclusive players do not have immediate access to premier Chocobo content, they must work 1 DoW/M class to R25. (Or bribe another battlecraft to power-level them to r25)

DoM/M exclusive players do not have immediate access to premier Materia content, they must work 1 DoH class to R18. (Or bribe another crafter to do it for them)

DoL exclusive players gain exclusive access to Materia catalysts, supplying crafters for a tidy profit.

Is it me, or did SE create an all-round timesink-o-fairness here?

Well played, SE. Well played.

[Nuru]

Ohh snap, you've hit the nail on the head there!


Let's review--

Major new content implemented in v1.19: Materia and Chocobos

DoH exclusive players do not have immediate access to premier Chocobo content, they must work 1 DoW/M class to R25.

DoM/M exclusive players do not have immediate access to premier Materia content, they must work 1 DoH class to R18. (Or bribe another crafter to do it for them)

Is it me, or did SE create a dual timesink here?

Well played, SE. Well played.

Well, at least there is someone here that gets it. Some people take me way too seriously. Was nearly mocking those who want access to all content no matter what or how much time they spend in certain classes. The primary focus of this game is that you experience a bit of everything.

So I will say again:

How about we all stop arguing and whining and find a productive solution? I submit that that solution would be to simply get over it and level a battle class to 25. Is it fair? Maybe, maybe not. Is it what you're going to have to do to get a Personal Chocobo for the time being? Yes. All this time and energy spent raging and whining about it could have been spent leveling a battle class to 25 and chances are you'd be done by now.

I did mention that Hand and Gathering Classes should get quests from Grand Companies in cohere with the caravan escort quests. It would make sense if those quests were tied together. Story-wise.

[Dreadnought]

Ohh snap, you've hit the nail on the head there!


Let's review--

Major new content implemented in v1.19: Materia and Chocobos

DoH exclusive players do not have immediate access to premier Chocobo content, they must work 1 DoW/M class to R25.

DoM/M exclusive players do not have immediate access to premier Materia content, they must work 1 DoH class to R18. (Or bribe another crafter to do it for them)

DoL exclusive players gain exclusive access to Materia catalysts, supplying crafters for a tidy profit.

Is it me, or did SE create an all-round timesink-o-fairness here?

Well played, SE. Well played.

this a thousand times this!!!

dont pay attention to chocobo whiners SE, the patch is realistic, caters to everyone one way or another and i just cant wait

[darkstarpoet1]

Ohh snap, you've hit the nail on the head there!


Let's review--

Major new content implemented in v1.19: Materia and Chocobos

DoH exclusive players do not have immediate access to premier Chocobo content, they must work 1 DoW/M class to R25.

DoM/M exclusive players do not have immediate access to premier Materia content, they must work 1 DoH class to R18. (Or bribe another crafter to do it for them)

DoL exclusive players gain exclusive access to Materia catalysts, supplying crafters for a tidy profit.

Is it me, or did SE create an all-round timesink-o-fairness here?

Well played, SE. Well played.

ok if both are equal then where does a straight crafter go to bribe a dow to get them their personal chocobo? you point out that a battle class can bribe a crafter to make the materia for them is equal so i am just curious because i haven't seen anything about crafters could get a chocobo by paying a battle class for them.

that's like saying dow cannot equip or use their gear unless their craft rank is high enough to repair it or that battle classes cannot use gear with materia attacked unless they are high enough rank to attach it themselves.

do you see the flaw in your own argument? one way you can still get what you want without leveling another class you do not like, but the other way you cannot.

[Holland]

ok if both are equal then where does a straight crafter go to bribe a dow to get them their personal chocobo? you point out that a battle class can bribe a crafter to make the materia for them is equal so i am just curious because i haven't seen anything about crafters could get a chocobo by paying a battle class for them.

that's like saying dow cannot equip or use their gear unless their craft rank is high enough to repair it or that battle classes cannot use gear with materia attacked unless they are high enough rank to attach it themselves.

do you see the flaw in your own argument? one way you can still get what you want without leveling another class you do not like, but the other way you cannot.

I could argue that I needed to level a gathering class I did not want to level to amass that gil so in turn I could be able to bribe that crafter. So it can go both ways at the end.

[darkstarpoet1]

I could argue that I needed to level a gathering class I did not want to level to amass that gil so in turn I could be able to bribe that crafter. So it can go both ways at the end.

no you can't. you had battle leves you could do to amass gil and you could have farmed material on your battle class to sell to the npc or the wards. in other words you had ways to get the gil so you were not forced to do so. nice try though.

[Holland]

no you can't. you had battle leves you could do to amass gil and you could have farmed material on your battle class to sell to the npc or the wards. in other words you had ways to get the gil so you were not forced to do so. nice try though.

But if I want to amass gil faster*, which is akin to a faster chocobo than Rental, I would need to level up a gatherer class.

[NoctisUmbra]

ok if both are equal then where does a straight crafter go to bribe a dow to get them their personal chocobo? you point out that a battle class can bribe a crafter to make the materia for them is equal so i am just curious because i haven't seen anything about crafters could get a chocobo by paying a battle class for them.

that's like saying dow cannot equip or use their gear unless their craft rank is high enough to repair it or that battle classes cannot use gear with materia attacked unless they are high enough rank to attach it themselves.

do you see the flaw in your own argument? one way you can still get what you want without leveling another class you do not like, but the other way you cannot.

I can buy gear with gil. I can get materia attached to my gear with gil. I can get people to repair my gear with gil. I do not get to experience the convenience of doing these things myself when and how I want, without paying someone else, unless I rank up a crafting class.

You can ride a rental chocobo with gil. You do not get to experience the convenience of having a faster and much more flexible battle chocobo issued by a Grand Company unless you rank up a battle class and join said company.

[Kraggy]

You do not get to experience the convenience of having a faster and much more flexible battle chocobo issued by a Grand Company unless you rank up a battle class and join said company.

Which totallysupports the point people are making when they say SE have abandoned their long-trumpeted stance that DoH/L were just as important and 'viable' to play as DoW/M.

Q.E.D.

BTW, it's not a 'battle' chocobo, it's the fact that it can be summoned at will which is the important issue here, don't use the adjective 'battle' to try to support your argument for making DoH/L second-class classes.