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    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    So you're thinking they can't...

    All it is is local leves from Grand Company NPCs instead of the Adventure Guild and Seals instead of Marks. They don't have to be all that complex and all that many. I don't understand why they couldn't do that without delaying anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    So you're thinking they can't...

    All it is is local leves from Grand Company NPCs instead of the Adventure Guild and Seals instead of Marks. They don't have to be all that complex and all that many. I don't understand why they couldn't do that without delaying anything.
    That's right, I don't think they can because if they could have, I think they would have. Maybe it's harder than it seems. Maybe they hadn't thought of it and it's too late to implement in the timetable they've established. Maybe it IS going to be there and there's no specific declaration as such. After all, there is the mention of "Implementation of supply and replenishment objectives" for patch 1.19 under "Grand Companies". I don't see why the reward couldn't be Grand Company seals or why crafters couldn't be involved. (Check the 16th Letter from the Producer if you want to see for yourself)

    What I don't believe is that they're deliberately shutting pure gatherers and crafters from getting a chocobo on purpose, or that the dev team is not working it's butt off to please as many people as possible. Whatever they've got on the table, I'm ready to see it. At the least I can rent a chocobo if I want and with people turning their gear into materia I might be able to sell some in the markets. Things are looking up for me no matter how I think of it.

    Basically, I agree that non combat classes should be able to earn a chocobo on their own, but I think it's too early to complain that it can't be done. Perhaps we can start this over again in a week or so if we find out your suspicion is on the money and there's no note to the effect that the issue will be addressed.
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    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valarian View Post
    That's right, I don't think they can because if they could have, I think they would have. [..]

    What I don't believe is that they're deliberately shutting pure gatherers and crafters from getting a chocobo on purpose, or that the dev team is not working it's butt off to please as many people as possible. Whatever they've got on the table, I'm ready to see it. At the least I can rent a chocobo if I want and with people turning their gear into materia I might be able to sell some in the markets. Things are looking up for me no matter how I think of it.

    Basically, I agree that non combat classes should be able to earn a chocobo on their own, but I think it's too early to complain that it can't be done. Perhaps we can start this over again in a week or so if we find out your suspicion is on the money and there's no note to the effect that the issue will be addressed.
    It's good that you have such a positive attitude and I do hope I'm wrong.

    But after being shut out of the Grand Companies entirely since their appearance (all GC quests are Battleclass related) my gatherer buddy is thinking about quitting the game. He's really disappointed about the Chocobo thing. It was a long awaited promise that he really really looked forward to. He can rent but he wants his own becuase he doesn't want to be tied to a city or to be limited to only 20 mins. because it makes it useless to someone who gathers for hours very far from town. Plus, it's the gall of seeing "everyone else" running around on chocobos when he's not. So you gotta respect his point of view that this is a major blow to his outlook of the future game. How long will he have to wait before he feels like the game is improving? Because right now he feels pretty left out.

    I've offered to power level him and run him through the r25 quests for all 3 cities. I don't want to lose a friend.
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    Last edited by HiirNoivl; 09-25-2011 at 09:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    But after being shut out of the Grand Companies entirely since their appearance (all GC quests are Battleclass related) my gatherer buddy is thinking about quitting the game.
    What? Is the 1.19 patch-note already out?
    Where can i read it? Or do you mean 1.18 with "(all GC quests are Battleclass related)"? 1.18 is outdated in few days.

    I'm very sure crafters and gatherers are getting work in the grand companies.
    Make the quest Seeing the Seers in Gridania and you see what I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    It's good that you have such a positive attitude and I do hope I'm wrong.

    But after being shut out of the Grand Companies entirely since their appearance (all GC quests are Battleclass related) my gatherer buddy is thinking about quitting the game. He's really disappointed about the Chocobo thing. It was a long awaited promise that he really really looked forward to. He can rent but he wants his own becuase he doesn't want to be tied to a city or to be limited to only 20 mins. because it makes it useless to someone who gathers for hours very far from town. Plus, it's the gall of seeing "everyone else" running around on chocobos when he's not. So you gotta respect his point of view that this is a major blow to his outlook of the future game. How long will he have to wait before he feels like the game is improving? Because right now he feels pretty left out.

    I've offered to power level him and run him through the r25 quests for all 3 cities. I don't want to lose a friend.
    You are a good friend. ^^ I'll keep my fingers crossed that he does not feel left out for much longer.
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    But I like being my guilds one and only crafter and archer :'(

    Oh wait...

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    I played xi and the only reason I leveled bst was for fast farming of stuff that I couldn't buy easily. Only got to 60 before I maxed all crafting skills. I thought it was neat to be decked out in all hq gear or I had tons of money to buy whatever I wanted. I knew some max rank crafters in xi with max jobs below 30 that weren't alts. For me it was like wasting tons of money for college to make more money. This game I got 3 mil just doing leves without selling an item to another player. I wouldn't have a battle class above 20 if my son didn't want me to go out and fight things and do behest. Thank goodness I did, as crafters are considered secondary classes now.

    Having to travel to all the camps to turn in leves would greatly help if crafters had chocobos.
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    I gotta say out of my 7 years mmorpg experience, FFXIV (I have not play FFXI) is the game that have a decent craft system and taste in it and not press a button and go afk, and I am sure most of the craft agree with me about this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    I gotta say out of my 7 years mmorpg experience, FFXIV (I have not play FFXI) is the game that have a decent craft system and taste in it and not press a button and go afk, and I am sure most of the craft agree with me about this
    While it's a different system as in other MMO's, it's still a system which lacks a lot of things. Or at least some sort of long lasting-ness ;O
    I'd rather bang my head against the wall or on my desk instead of hitting standard synthesis over and over for 1hour and above ><;

    I dunno. Maybe they changed a little bit already. But skilling (sping) up the crafting classes still feels sloppy and boring. Of course some people think "Oh cool, that's what I can do 24/7". I cannot. T-T

    But here are different opinions at place once again. I can only hope they tweak it a little bit more so it's getting more enjoyable instead of a "Hmm I need my CRP at 50 so I can repair my own bows in the field"-Feeling.
    I want to play that game regulary sooooooo badly but it's not that appealing yet, sadly
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    Seriously Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    I gotta say out of my 7 years mmorpg experience, FFXIV (I have not play FFXI) is the game that have a decent craft system and taste in it and not press a button and go afk, and I am sure most of the craft agree with me about this
    this is one crafter that completely agrees. i love the depth of the materials and the hq system. sure the mini game itself needs some work and there are some items that need tweaking, but is overall the best system in any mmo i have played to date. i am speaking of the way it is now.

    i have my concerns about the upcoming system, but i guess i will just have to wait and see. i just feel like alot of what i enjoy about crafting is being taken away and not fixing the parts that i think could have been improved upon. that's only a personal opinion though.
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