Endgame toxicity

[Dement]

Also literally anyone can say "i've researched the fight, I know the fight" when they have not. Years of abuse by lazy, sorry players has lead to intolerance. Slack jawed, glassy eyed maggots that want to ride on your coat-tails to loot and glory have been plaguing the PuG scene and the tolerance for wipes and failures and newbs has long since been erased.

While the wording is a little strong, unfortunately this is what caused a lot of the toxicity in the endgame community. Most of the people who are in the end game scene or have been through ARR are well aware of how often this happens:

You set up a clear/farm party stating your intentions and that it's not a learning party, although you don't really talk about kicking people or disbanding the group under failing conditions. 5 people join instantly and the 6 of you wait for 20 minutes trying to fill the last 2 slots. Finally, 30 minutes later you're ready to go in. You enter and the new person bonus pops up. Okay whatever, you've waited this long you may as well give it a go, after all you said in your comment that prior knowledge of the fight is required. Players X and Y proceed to wipe/fail mechanics A, B, mostly C, and definitely D, all within the first minute and a half of the fight. After the inevitable full party wipe, you ask them what's going on and they tell you "I've never been in here before and I don't like to spoil myself by researching a fight ahead of time." At this point Player Z quits the instance and the abandon ship mentality immediately takes hold. So now 45 minutes later you've ran the fight for a minute and a half and you have maybe 2 or 3 people still in your party, likely the people who didn't know the fight.

It happens, it still does happen, and it gets old REALLY fast if you're at a level where you can clear/farm the content. So slowly you become a little more hostile everytime you make your PF comment, trying to discourage this type of behavior.

[Krissey]

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And this story, for some of us, who have been doing this raiding thing since 2008 (WLK, I mostly just leveled and derped in BC. I had like 3 70's all in greens and never ran 1 dungeon LOL) this situation has happened so many times over 6 years you just want things to actually work out.

Not to mention people who have been playing since EQ or Ultima or whatever and have been doing raiding for 10+ years, 15+ years. Imagine how long ago "I'm a newb and I'm the reason your group fell apart after waiting for 2 hours for it to form" got old.