Endgame toxicity

[Caraway]

This is a sad truth. I, personally, never join these parties even if I have something flawlessly on farm. As has been stated; often time it's someone looking to be carried and not a group looking to efficiently farm.

That and I'd rather fail a bunch of times laughing, than win with a boring group (and these people are routinely boring).

[Snugglebutt]

And no, I have never run into any farming PF that has the leader ended up being carried.

What would you know about endgame raiding/EX and endgame PF groups for this game if the character your posting with highest level is 48...do you have another character which is in a better position to make such a statement about how endgame PF's works in this game or are you just bringing in your personal bias from WoW and applying it to something you might have very little experience with in this one?

As someone who has had more experience apparently than you within the context of this topic about this game plus many others who have also posted, many of us have experienced many PF groups where the leader is being carried contrary to your potentially limited experience within this game. As far as toxicity goes a prime example of the sort of thing people are talking about is shown in statements like this...

...and I'm sure most people would not care if they vanish from the earth tomorrow.

So in conclusion, most likely those people are the most reviled and hated ones in our society and on the internet today, they are known as social justice warriors, or SJW for short.

Also why are you bringing up nonsense about SJW in relation to this topic? Your blaming of SJW is highly flawed...what you use as a basis for your hatred in your second paragraph is not that related to who your blaming. There are many aspects such as attention deficit, principles of instant gratification, real world limited time to play and a multitude of other elements like potentially being lazy or toxicity of certain game play aspects people do not want to be a part of which make up the core part of your second paragraphs excuse for your hatred yet it has nothing to do with SJW despite your blaming it all on SJW.

You should dial your disdain back a few notches because your coming across as the sort of person this topic is complaining about. To say no-one would care if others were dead essentially aka gone from the real world shows you have some personal issues and bringing that toxicity into this game and this forum. Your like a hate preacher who basically said the people you personally don't like are better off dead, it is the epitome of toxicity.

...are a joke among normal human beings

What? Define normal human being. Go on, I'll be waiting in eager anticipation of the nonsense you might spout about what is a normal and abnormal human being. Your post is one of the most toxic ones in this thread, your opinions are filled with such bile and hatred that your not painting a mature or pretty picture of yourself to many others right now.

[Inariya]

*randomly hops in thread*

In terms of the technical system setup- There will always be some issue of some kind in any system. It's just a given that every person and mentality is different ... And there by leads to different understandings, preferences and so fourth. SE isn't going to leave any instance PF forever. It'll DF after a while and eventually you'll get an echo. In the way that they always make it more pass-able over time not deserve some amount of credit. Heck.. You can go kill bahamut at level 60 now.

*rewinds time*

In XI you found no party. Party finds you. ....Literally even. Put up your search comment- if people so much as don't want your job class you're going to be sitting for days or weeks without a party. or! Make the party yourself.

For WoW when I played it- a PF option wasn't even available. Complete randoms or you shout/know people.



Though frustrating at times.. The XIV system is still pretty dang inclusive. People are people. Though some can 'fail as human beings' - there are many, many reasons for whatever PF specifications there may be. There's a character limit and most people would probably lose interest if the explanation on what/why a party was choosing 'no bonus' was longer than a single, complete sentence.

Any given person has many options.

[h0tNstilettos]

Yes, it's pretty toxic. It's also called laziness. No one wants to take the time to explain the fight in steps. But what you should be doing if you can't find one is to start a party finder group of your own, like maybe a so and so learning party.

[Rajeme]

It's fine to make the rules since it's PF and they can make do with it.

But the wording is rude and unattractive. If I was a customer, I would never ever buy products from such advertisement. If I was their boss, they sure as hell will get their asses-kicked.

If they have brain, they could make their party much more comfortable and others much more pleasant.

[Wavaryen]

It's fine to make the rules since it's PF and they can make do with it.

But the wording is rude and unattractive. If I was a customer, I would never ever buy products from such advertisement. If I was their boss, they sure as hell will get their asses-kicked.

If they have brain, they could make their party much more comfortable and others much more pleasant.

But, they want to find other like minded players who agree with them to join the group. So to them it does not matter, they are not making a group to enjoy and make friends. They want to get the job done as fast as they can.

[Rajeme]

But, they want to find other like minded players who agree with them to join the group. So to them it does not matter, they are not making a group to enjoy and make friends. They want to get the job done as fast as they can.

You don't need to be rude to find like-minded people. You don't need to be friends to be nice to others. Actually it doesn't cost them anything to change the attitude. Do they speak that way with their parents/friends/colleagues/ strangers? I doubt. If not, why brings it online?

And also, be nice will get people join them faster, and with gratitudes.

[Malevicton]

You don't need to be rude to find like-minded people. You don't need to be friends to be nice to others. Actually it doesn't cost them anything to change the attitude. Do they speak that way with their parents/friends/colleagues/ strangers? I doubt. If not, why brings it online?

And also, be nice will get people join them faster, and with gratitudes.

Yeah, can you imagine if someone just made wild generalizations about large groups of people, saying things like "If I was their boss, they sure as hell will get their asses-kicked." or "If they have brain, they could make their party much more comfortable and others much more pleasant"? I mean why couldn't they just make their case without becoming aggressive, just like you're asking?

Let's be real, people are people. Courtesy is good and all, but condemning people for not being courteous (not even discourtesy really since they aren't being openly rude, just not being actively courteous) is just gonna make you bitter and defensive. And eventually you'll have found a reason to hate everyone.