Endgame toxicity

[Issac]

It's a mess that needs to be fixed.

The only ones that can fix it are ourselves. As a community we need to decide to be better people. We need to remember that there's real humans behind the pixels and take a moment to consider compassion. It's not that hard. I do it every day, in fact, most of the EN community on Masamune is rather compassionate, there's only a few bad apples. And guess what? They're not very popular. Go figure.

But over on the NA side of things, it's sad to hear how rare they are. Most people seem to be out for themselves. It breaks my heart.

Get your crap together, NA server group. Learn to care for needs other than your own. You're not the only one playing, this is a MMO.

[Issac]

Become the example of what you want to see in others.

Its all you can do, complaining about it won't change who people are. All you can do is be a positive influence yourself, and maybe you'll get lucky and spread the good will.

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The only ones that can fix it are ourselves. As a community we need to decide to be better people. We need to remember that there's real humans behind the pixels and take a moment to consider compassion. It's not that hard. I do it every day, in fact, most of the EN community on Masamune is rather compassionate, there's only a few bad apples. And guess what? They're not very popular. Go figure.

But over on the NA side of things, it's sad to hear how rare they are. Most people seem to be out for themselves. It breaks my heart.

Get your crap together, NA server group. Learn to care for needs other than your own. You're not the only one playing, this is a MMO.

[Sciwolf]

Keep in mind that the majority of the player base are nowhere near that level of content. Wait until the normal players who have jobs and don't live with their parents get to 60.

[Chihaya]

Keep in mind that the majority of the player base are nowhere near that level of content. Wait until the normal players who have jobs and don't live with their parents get to 60.

Again this fking disgrace of pulling the RL card on a game forums.
It is perhaps they have a job and family to take care of rather than wasting hours teaching some random on the internet that they may not see again. It may sound mean/rude - but it is how it is.

[Destomius]

Again this fking disgrace of pulling the RL card on a game forums.
It is perhaps they have a job and family to take care of rather than wasting hours teaching some random on the internet that they may not see again. It may sound mean/rude - but it is how it is.

Yep, agreed because that generalization is completely ridiculous. I'm out working an IT job for about 40 hours each week (or longer if more things need to get done), still managed to hit 60, buy all my law pieces, farm hunts for enough seals to upgrade all my gear, and farm Ravana EX enough to get my weapon. So when I do have playtime, I prefer to spend it efficiently.

[Seoulstar]

Again this fking disgrace of pulling the RL card on a game forums.
It is perhaps they have a job and family to take care of rather than wasting hours teaching some random on the internet that they may not see again. It may sound mean/rude - but it is how it is.

So they have time to spend hours farming. But not spend 10 to 15 minutes teaching a new player about an EX fight. That's some lovely logic.

[LTEvil]

So they have time to spend hours farming. But not spend 10 to 15 minutes teaching a new player about an EX fight. That's some lovely logic.

Since you are being aggressive I'll be too in kind. Logic? Are you not good at it? Time spent farming is completely up to me and relying on me. 10-15 minutes to teach someone? Where do you get that delusion? Let's take bis ex. It take 5-7 minutes for a complete clear if remember right. So you are implying after we explain the fight. May be take 2-3 minutes depending on player. We go through maybe one run and then the guy is ready to clear? That's called a carry. You paying for this? You giving me something? Why does my time have to be spent teaching some random?

[Chihaya]

So they have time to spend hours farming. But not spend 10 to 15 minutes teaching a new player about an EX fight. That's some lovely logic.

It may only take 5-10 mins to explain the fight but it may take hours watching you fk up and wipe the group

It is not uncommon for learning parties to time out of instances and raids and not get a clear out of it. Look at the road block that was T5/T9 or even Ex Primals. Some of these can be 4-7 manned even before the expansion. Yet even up until the expansion people are still complaining they are too hard - learning groups failing etc.
Heck, there was a thread about T5 how people can't do divebombs right before the expansion. They "knew" the mechanics but still manage to wipe the group, GG

When people make a farm party, they are there to farm, not to carry you.
If you want to learn the fight, make/join learning parties or find your FC/LS friends.

[Ulathskullsplitter]

Keep in mind that the majority of the player base are nowhere near that level of content. Wait until the normal players who have jobs and don't live with their parents get to 60.

This. Though i wish I didn't have to work so much and had more time to play. And it's because I know how this goes in this game. If you don't learn ex primals in the first week you are pretty much screwed. The same people who are now being rude in PF and only wanting experienced players etc are the same ones a few days ago who would have been fine wiping and having fun learning it themselves. After that first week or so the hostility kicks in. If you dont already have a clear then you're a scrub. Even learning parties now will be much more hostile because the expectations are that others are clearing already so we should be too.

[Tadacho]

Keep in mind that the majority of the player base are nowhere near that level of content. Wait until the normal players who have jobs and don't live with their parents get to 60.

I hate this kind of statement. It's on par with one "type" of gay person bashing another "type" of gay person within their own LGBT community. We're all gamers at the end of the day, and we're all in this together doing something we enjoy and perhaps love. Why make such generalising sweeping statements? Are well-adjusted, hard-working, independent individuals also not capable of being hardcore endgame gamers or is that reserved for "basement-dwellers" only? Get a grip.

I know you're probably being a bit tongue-in-cheek, but this kind of attitude is more toxic than what the OP is describing and is a big problem within the gaming community as a whole.