Endgame toxicity

[BlaiseArath]

Start your own party finder. "Bismark Extreme - Learning Party" go get experience

Get dat logical train of thought out of here man. Everyone else has to do everything for me first. duuh, if its not in party finder already ITS NEVER EVER EVER POSSIBLE FOR IT TO EVER HAPPEN EVER.

Sarcasm aside :P, This is seriously the only advice that needs to be said here... Learning groups start with you!

[odie]

If nobody is joining your party finder....

1.) There just isn't enough people on that want to join.

2.) Check your description.

I have seen some straight up RIDICULOUS party finder entries. Such as someone labeling it a learning party and also telling people all the loot is locked to the party leader. It never filled up. There is no surprise as to why. Make sure there is incentive. Nobody wants to come into a learning party to continue wiping over and over if they know there is no reward for them. They are likely to start their own, fill up, and clear the content without you.

Make sure its inviting to the other players. If you yourself are nervous about trying content for the first time, they are too. Maybe you aren't. But there are many timid players that want a fun environment to learn in.

Don't be misleading. If you don't put that its a learning party, or you try to disguise it as something it isn't...that's just bad. I've seen players disguise their learning party as a Farm party and when the duty starts, theres that first timer bonus. You are sure to lose your party fast and those individuals are likely to remember your name and never join your party again.

[Dualblade]

How about Bis/Rav outta PF only.. Its frustrating. Can't PF because I have no exp. Can't get experience without PF... So its gg on my i178 because my FC hasn't started current endgame.

I've been in multiple Bismark and Ravana learning parties this week. Either you are just on at bad times or aren't lookin hard enough. Trust me, if there isn't one and you make it, they will come. Unless that character of yours there is just an alt and you mean somewhere other then Gilgamesh.

[Fendred]

Harassment is an ever present issue. Just today we had a player actively belittling people in Bismarck hard mode for ridiculous reasons and making a distraction of himself as a result. Ended up wasting everyone's time and was kicked from the group, but not before the damage was done. The harassment is at its worst where players are most likely to fail, so places like "The Endless Blue" are likely targets.

My advice for everyone is to take a strong no tolerance policy towards personal attacks as well as criticism that amounts to personal attacks. If you see it, start a motion to dismiss the player before any damage can be done and get a new guy.

[Velthice]

Start your own party finder. "Bismark Extreme - Learning Party" go get experience

Echoing this as others have. This is the solution to your problem. You can't force people to play with you who don't want to play with you, they're real life human beings with free will.

[Issac]

Echoing this as others have. This is the solution to your problem. You can't force people to play with you who don't want to play with you, they're real life human beings with free will.

This argument has validity, but at the same time this sort of me me me attitude seems to becoming less rare and it's worrisome. As a gaming society, what direction do we want to take ourselves?

[BlaiseArath]

This argument has validity, but at the same time this sort of me me me attitude seems to becoming less rare and it's worrisome. As a gaming society, what direction do we want to take ourselves?

Become the example of what you want to see in others.

Its all you can do, complaining about it won't change who people are. All you can do is be a positive influence yourself, and maybe you'll get lucky and spread the good will.

[Leep]

Become the example of what you want to see in others.

Its all you can do, complaining about it won't change who people are. All you can do is be a positive influence yourself, and maybe you'll get lucky and spread the good will.

I get stacks when I complain though.

[Ashkendor]

This argument has validity, but at the same time this sort of me me me attitude seems to becoming less rare and it's worrisome. As a gaming society, what direction do we want to take ourselves?

In my opinion, the inexperienced person that joins the farm party looking for a carry is displaying more of a "me me me" attitude than the other seven players that are on the same page. If someone wants a clear, they can either work for it or pay for it. It doesn't take much effort to put a party into PF.

Only problem I have with starting a group on PF is that I have absolutely 0 experience and no one wants to join a run led by someone with no experience.

Learning parties imply a teacher. When party leader doesn't know the fight....

No. It implies "I want to learn this fight. Who else wants to learn it?"

[Sapphic]

Hunts aside, that's a whole other kettle of stuff..

Just looking at the party finder for the new EX Primals I've come to realize just how horrible the endgame community in this game is?

You do realise the Party Finder was added to facilitate players finding like minded players to run content with, whether thats to farm or learn. It is not a server specific Duty finder where random players join whatever.

Just like if you put up a PF for a story dungeon stating that will be viewing all cutscenes, you wouldnt want players joining and demanding you skip them. Same applies to farm parties. Apart from the ones where the leader has no clue and just wants 7 people to carry them XD

Echoing this as others have. This is the solution to your problem. You can't force people to play with you who don't want to play with you, they're real life human beings with free will.

Problem is so many people are lazy and expect everyone else to cater to them. It is easier to complain there are no parties accepting them in PF than to be proactive and start one them selves.

We get these kind of posts every so often, and if there where as many as there are claimed to be in this situation, then it shouldn't take long to form a learning party. But, do they want to learn, or jusst want to be carried? That is the question.