Scholar Pet Bug or Intended?

[Slib]

At Level 50, my Eos heals for 1000 on average and I heal for 1500 physicks (300 potency on eos heal, 400 on mine).

At Level 60, the potency remains the same, yet Eos heals for 1200 in current gear and I heal for 2400 physick.

That being said, it scales differently as you level up. I was wondering if making Eos/Selene weaker was intended or not? Hopefully it is a bug tho.

[Kyomih]

There is a thread where we discussed this already at length.
The current conclusion is that it has to do with your gear not being properly level appropriate for the fairy scaling. At max level with max gear for that level it should be ok again.

Or in short: ilevel compared to character level is incredibly important for the scaling of the fairy.

[ckc22]

There is a thread where we discussed this already at length.
The current conclusion is that it has to do with your gear not being properly level appropriate for the fairy scaling. At max level with max gear for that level it should be ok again.

Or in short: ilevel compared to character level is incredibly important for the scaling of the fairy.

This conclusion is wrong imo. Fairy scaling is still nerfed. In 2.xx embrace would typically = the heal component of my adlo. At lvl 60 and i175 its still 33% less. Either fairy scaling is bugged or nerfed. My guess based on all the other changes to sch is that it was nerfed.

[Lafier]

I'm pretty sure I seen that this is an issue that is in the accepted bugs thread.

[Ghishlain]

There was a thread posted on Reddit with a few testing results and it does indicate that with completely equivalent gearing but different levels, Embraces scaled lower versus Physick. There was also another thread on this particular forum discussing it but I haven't taken the opportunity to look for it.

To me, while this test does prove "something" is going on, it doesn't directly show this is a gear creep factor or if this is a level scaling factor (or even both at the same time, for that matter). I feel there needs to be more tests run, namely a SCH with a level 1 book and basically finding data points for the Embrace % versus Physik on multiple data point levels.

For example, if a level 15 SCH that is completely naked except for a level 1 book shows their Embrace is approximately 60 or 70% of the power of a Physik, then this clearly indicates a downward trend of fairy power as the SCH raises in power and is completely intentional. Admittidly as well, the scaling from 51-60 is significantly different compared to 1-50.

I'll probably end up testing this myself directly once I get a little time and clean out my inventory a little bit.

[Bigcat9715]

It's in accepted bugs, so I don't think so.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Scaling-Issue

[Ftail]

There was a thread posted on Reddit Snip...

"It's not something that item level will resolve, unfortunately. I did a second set of testing with another friend - i110 weapon, i70 average otherwise, which is as close to current gear levels as he was able to replicate. His faerie was healing for just about 33% more than mine, as a percentage of his other heals." - ni5n[S] 9 points 1 day ago

ni5n is original poster of the Reddit article you posted, and what I copied was a comment from him to another person on that page.

[Ghishlain]

"It's not something that item level will resolve, unfortunately. I did a second set of testing with another friend - i110 weapon, i70 average otherwise, which is as close to current gear levels as he was able to replicate. His faerie was healing for just about 33% more than mine, as a percentage of his other heals." - ni5n[S] 9 points 1 day ago

ni5n is original poster of the Reddit article you posted, and what I copied was a comment from him to another person on that page.

Keep going with that train of thought, he goes into a more indepth test which I find is more beneficial to the discussion (he edits that test into his OP) versus that one comment you linked.

I feel he needs to do the "naked but kept upgrading the weapons" test on the level 50 SCH as well. That why you have two lines of data points to compare instead of "here's the trend at level 60" versus "here's one data point at level 50". If the trend of the level 50 is similar to the trend for the level 60, then we know for certain it's a direct nerf to the fairy. For consistency sake, it would also be in the tester's interest to take a weapon that won't sync and try to see how the % changes the lower the level goes. If the Embrace % is high in the 15-30 range and continues to trend downwards, then its clear the fairy is meant to grow at a slower rate versus the SCH and thus this "nerf" is actually an intended effect, especially if it remains mostly linear (I expect there to be some sort of change at the 50-51 range).

It's in accepted bugs, so I don't think so.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Scaling-Issue

Do we know which point is considered "accepted bug" in that post? I'm looking at the screenshots given for the weapon / ilvl scaling and would consider that test inconclusive mainly because I don't believe she actually re-summoned her fairy after her changing weapons. The Fairy's stats are a snapshot based on the gear you had equipped at the time you summoned her. Based on the time listed in the bottom right corner between the two pictures and the fact Swiftcast isn't on cooldown, I'm going to assume she didn't change her fairy.

[Ballooooon]

Ghishlain has the right of it. The thread in the accepted bugs misses the mark. If you look at the pictures he posts it becomes clear that he switched weapons without re-summoning the fairy, which is why she's healing for the same amount in both pictures. There's definitely a scaling problem but that isn't it.

It should also be noted that the accepted bugs forum does not mean that the developers agree it is a bug. It simply means that the poster provided sufficient information and it will be looked into.

[Kyani]

Hi, i'm actually the OP of the Reddit thread (check Flair there), and I was able to get a level 50 Scholar friend to help me with some different WD/MND configurations! These are all loose averages, so they might be off by a percentage point or two, but they're more than accurate enough to show a trend.

i110 (Book of Diamonds) - Physick 680, Embrace 420 - 63.08%
i90 (Omnilex Zenith) - Physick 627, Embrace 382.8 - 61.05%
i70 (Cantavina Medica NQ, WD 57) - Physick 527, Embrace 318 - 60.3%

Those were all bound to him, but these two weren't, so I was able to perform a more accurate pair of tests:

Wolf Grimoire of Healing (HQ) (i55, 59 WD) Level 50 - 550 Physick, 322 Embrace - 58.54%
Wolf Grimoire of Healing (HQ) (i55, 59 WD) Level 60 - 593.4 Physick, 244.9 Embrace - 41.27%

Wolf Grimoire of Healing (NQ) (i55, 53 WD) Level 50 - 502.4 Physick, 302.4 Embrace - 60.17%
Wolf Grimoire of Healing (NQ) (i55, 53 WD) Level 60 - 537.9 Physick, 229.2 Embrace - 42.6%