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    3.0 Known Issues Post Doesn't Mention Dark Knight's Darkside MP Drain Issues

    As the title says, every DRK since 3.0 noticed that if they have darkside up while tanking their mp basically disappears. I tanked Sohm Al last night and I had to keep darkside off the entire time or I'd be sitting at 0 endlessly. It appears that BUFFS and DEBUFFS from enemies AND players is increasing the mp tick. If you use one dark arts move you basically drain your bar.

    As of right now DRK is literally broken. We need halp!
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    Check the Dev Tracker, they made a post that they are aware of the issue and working on a fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megaman View Post
    Check the Dev Tracker, they made a post that they are aware of the issue and working on a fix.
    They addressed the Dark Arts multi-mob issues. They did not address the Darkside mana drainage issue. Two totally separate issues. Dark Arts stuff not hitting all mobs sucks but doesn't break the class. Not being able to have Darkside on does.

    A good post from reddit:

    How Darkside works in regards to MP drain and why HoTs (in particular) are not your friend.

    Darkside drains x mp each time the DRK uses an action


    The reason that if you have Darkside running and you get reduced MP regen when idle, is because Darkside refreshes itself on the global tick, thus generating an action, which reduces MP

    Now, the way Buffs (and Debuffs work) is that when an effect is cast on the Player ("you") it's prolonged effects are attributed to you; afterwards until it expires. So if your WHM casts Regen on you. Your combat log looks something like:
    •DRK gains Regen
    •DRK heals for x health.

    At this moment, the DRK has just generated an action, thus triggering Darkside to drain MP.

    Why is Regen in particular not your friend? Due to the new Spellspeed changes to HoTs, the average i180 WHM/AST can drain a DRKs MP to 50% in approximately 15 seconds with the DRK taking no actions besides auto-attacks, which do not drain MP. Heal over Time effects are hands down the most brutal MP drainers, because they're constant guaranteed drain on our pools.

    So next time you're running a dungeon, tell your healer. No HoTs.
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    Last edited by healthetank; 07-02-2015 at 03:55 AM.

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    I see what you're saying, I just read the lodestone post and am worried now too. I hope they address the whole lot of problems drk has rn and not just 1 half
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    Link to source please? All I've been able to find is the "Letter from the Producer" announcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    Link to source please? All I've been able to find is the "Letter from the Producer" announcement.
    Source for? The known issues post is the same place they always are, front page news or in the announcements forum. The darkside bug is documented in a bunch of reddit posts/bug forum posts as well as my own personal experiences tanking since 3.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by healthetank View Post
    Source for? The known issues post is the same place they always are, front page news or in the announcements forum. The darkside bug is documented in a bunch of reddit posts/bug forum posts as well as my own personal experiences tanking since 3.0.
    They have acknowledge the DA bug, but they have not acknowledged the MP draining bug... which is what the OP (and many of us) is concerned about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    They have acknowledge the DA bug, but they have not acknowledged the MP draining bug... which is what the OP (and many of us) is concerned about.
    The op is me. The person you're replying to. Yes, I'm concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by healthetank View Post
    The op is me. The person you're replying to. Yes, I'm concerned.
    Oops, I think I meant to quote the other person you were talking too. Sorry, lol.

    But yeah, I'm also worried that they didn't acknowledge the extra MP ticks too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    Link to source please? All I've been able to find is the "Letter from the Producer" announcement.
    This is the post I was talking about:
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...8c6e83dc31c3c9
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