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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Dropping Enochian is bad but it's not a 40-50% loss, no. I've done full no Enochian parses and I get 1k~ when it's more like 1,150-1,200 with normal Enochian.
    Shooting myself in the foot here cause I do want BLMs to get some QoL changes to make the timers more forgiving but... Im tempted to agree with this.

    Lets see, the old rotation is for example...
    240(T1) + 180(B1) + 240*.7*2 (B3 and F3 swapping) + (5*180+2*240)*1.8 = 3240 pot over 11 gcds = 117.82 pot/sec.

    A general "lets pretend its a full refresh every time" Enochian rotation may look like...
    240*.7*2 (B3 and F3 swapping) + (5*280+180)*1.8 (lets claim we can fit in 5 F4's) + 280(B4) to refresh = 3460 potency, over a total of 25.5s due to the longer cast times of F4 and B4 = 135.69 pot/sec.

    So 135.69/117.82 = 15.2%
    From a pure math standpoint, not counting the EXTRA dps loss from having to wait for mana ticks or having a buff fall off because the timer ran out, the perfect sustained Enochian rotation is only 15% stronger than the perfect sustained non-Enochian rotation.

    So IDK, my BLM is still 59.6ish so I cannot truly speak for how much of a dps gain having F4 will be... but from a math standpoint, if you simply HAVE TO drop Enochian and revert to the old rotation, it is not a 40-50% dps loss... (again my viewpoint may change when I hit 60 and get some better gear)

    I think a lot of it is the idea that messing up the Enochian timer hell and losing 40-50% is that when you DO mess it up, you are fundamentally messing up core BLM mechanics because you were desperately trying to maintain Enochian.

    Perhaps the solution is the accept BOTH rotations and practice some fluidity in switching between them?
    Perhaps if you see that you are forced to move and will be entering a "red zone" in your timers, it may be a good idea to fluidly change back to the old rotation and let Enochian fall off. As opposed to trying to do a last second salvage, failing, and now you have no Enochian, no stacks, and not enough mana to cast a damn thing!

    That said, do I think the current state of BLM is good? NO!
    BLM when played perfectly CAN be good, some would say very good, but the way the current timer and stack mechanics are set up is SO unforgiving that 1 small mistake, 1 slightly long forced movement phase, and you are SCREWED! And that is wrong.
    The timers need to be extended, B4 and F4 should be allowed to finish casting if AF or UI or Enochian fall off, and maybe the personal effects of these spells should be frontloaded, applied at the start of the cast, not when the cast lands AND deals damage (hello invulnerable boss).
    But we should not completely shun the old rotation. If you honestly see that you are in a situation where trying to maintain the Enochian rotation may very well cause you to lose all your stacks and end up in a sorry state, then just switch back to the old rotation until Enochian refreshes. It is better to fluidly change rotations and do 15% less damage, than fail to salvage Enochian and quite likely end up doing 40-50% less damage.
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    Last edited by Kenji1134; 07-10-2015 at 04:19 AM.