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Thread: MNK's Chakra

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    MNK's Chakra

    So why is chakra on the gcd? It has barely any use the way it is. We have to choose between healing a bit of TP or doing a 320 potency attack, and in most fights, we don't have the time to be stacking our chakra. I feel like MNK got shafted for skills this expansion.
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    Because at a lot of fights in endgame, you WILL have a lot of downtime, and it's more than enough to pull up 5 stacks of chakra. For example, Alex Floor 1's boss duo like to fly into the air before crashing at one side of the field. It's long enough for you to lose GL no matter what, meaning long enough for you to have time to fully stock up on Chakra stacks and form shift into Coeurl to get back onto the boss.
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    Just because we understand the intended function of the ability doesn't mean a quality of life change isint warranted. I want to see SE give us the opportunity to use our cool new moves more often, removing Chakra from the GCD would alow us to charge up between moves; if the price of that is they have to put a cooldown on the attack itself I think its well worth it. Also give us a chance of GL stack to use a free tornado kick, that move is just too spectacular to be used as little as it is.
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    Last edited by Barghest1210; 07-09-2015 at 12:43 PM.

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    The problem is that in the most cases of downtime we will use Form Shift either to have the chance to hold GL3 or at least that we can continue after the downtime with just one stack of GL after the first hit, so there is hardly ever the time to press 5 times meditation and 3 times form shift to get to the last form. For example in Alex 2nd, 3rd and 4th floor i have never the long enough downtime to do both of that and GL is much more important than forbitten charka.
    So they should either put it off GCD or lets say give us 1 stack each time we refresh GL. In both cases we have more often the possibility to play with our new skills and not just once or twice in a fight.
    Yeah and for tornado kick imo it is a very high cost to spend ALL GL stacks for a 330 potency. I barely use it therefore. Should also get little changes.
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    There's downtime in most of the current endgame fights where you can charge a full stack of chakra.

    For example,

    BisEX: The dragonkiller pulling in delay
    RavEX: ...Lots
    A1: When Oppressor flies up
    A3: Switching forms, Tornado form
    A4: The delay after hitting Manipulator a few times after breaking a leg when it charges the raid-wide aoe
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    They won't do that because it would make monk too strong. So you can either do it in your downtime, or inbetween GL stacks (it's possible to do it takes timing but you can).
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    For the primals you are right, there are enough long downtimes to charge 5 stacks of chakra.
    In A1 when he flies up i have once in the whole fight the chance to get back 5 stacks, so i can do twice forbitten chakra if i don't need TP.
    In A3 (which i did 10 times yesterday) when he swithes the form its only enough time to do form shift to get to coeurl form to refresh GL3, and also in the switch to the little add phase there is not enough time to press 3x form shift and 5x chakra.
    In A4 all of the downtimes lasts not long enough to get 5 stacks furthermore you need the GCD in the downtime to get to coeurlform to keep GL3 if possible which is the most important.

    So in A3 and 4 i can use either forbitten chakra or TP reg only once in the fight. I think thats not what SE wanted, to use one of two skills just once in a fight or maybe twice for fights like A1. And additionally when you compare it to coil, there are lots of fights where you have NO downtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noira View Post
    They won't do that because it would make monk too strong. So you can either do it in your downtime, or inbetween GL stacks (it's possible to do it takes timing but you can).
    Yeah maybe they won't change anything which would be annoying, then i think i would change to DRG.
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    Other than the already mentioned downtimes it's also good for longer fights or when you happened to die with invig used without a TP support, you might aswell gather Chakra for Purification.
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    In generel i like the chakra idea itself but the execution is not the best.
    I also think that i would not be OP if they change it to something where we can use forbitten chakra twice a minute or so and monk would then a bit than nin/ drg due to the missing raid damage utility like nin/ drg have.

    But lets wait a bit, maybe SE will see that some QoL changes would be nice, even if they have to lower the potency of forbitten chakra since it would be used more often and make more fun to play monk.
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