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    Reliable 'stone' macro?

    Is there a reliable way to integrate stone I, II, and III into the same macro?

    Basically, I'd like to have 1 goto key to appropriately spam the proper direct dmg spell for the level sync.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    "reliable" is a tricky word. Macros do not queue actions, so they will always be unreliable in that sense.

    That said:
    Code:
    /ac "Stone III" <t>
    /ac "Stone III" <tt>
    /ac "Stone II" <t>
    /ac "Stone II" <tt>
    /ac "Stone" <t>
    /ac "Stone" <tt>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    "reliable" is a tricky word. Macros do not queue actions, so they will always be unreliable in that sense.

    That said:
    Code:
    /ac "Stone III" <t>
    /ac "Stone III" <tt>
    /ac "Stone II" <t>
    /ac "Stone II" <tt>
    /ac "Stone" <t>
    /ac "Stone" <tt>

    I prefer 2 macros

    /micon "Stone II"
    /ac "Stone III" <t>
    /ac "Stone III" <tt>
    /ac "Stone II" <t>
    /ac "Stone II" <tt>

    /micon "Stone"
    /ac "Stone" <t>
    /ac "Stone" <tt>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    "reliable" is a tricky word. Macros do not queue actions, so they will always be unreliable in that sense.

    That said:
    Code:
    /ac "Stone III" <t>
    /ac "Stone III" <tt>
    /ac "Stone II" <t>
    /ac "Stone II" <tt>
    /ac "Stone" <t>
    /ac "Stone" <tt>
    By reliable, I mean, if I am level 60 and I spam the above. Will it always cast stone III? Is there any possibility I spam this and I cast Stone II instead of III?

    At any rate though imma try this out, thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    By reliable, I mean, if I am level 60 and I spam the above. Will it always cast stone III? Is there any possibility I spam this and I cast Stone II instead of III?

    At any rate though imma try this out, thank you!
    Macros setup like this essentially work on priority. Stone III will always be the spell that casts if it is possible for it to cast. Stone II will always cast if stone III is not available. Only if both are not available will Stone cast.

    You might also wish to tweak your error settings so you don't get spammed.

    Also, use /micon if you want the GCD clock to appear (doesn't matter which stone you use for /micon, but it will only show the MP cost of the one you select).
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    By reliable, I mean, if I am level 60 and I spam the above. Will it always cast stone III? Is there any possibility I spam this and I cast Stone II instead of III?

    At any rate though imma try this out, thank you!
    No, it won't be reliable. When you use a macro, the lines are not all executed simultaneously. There is a split second delay between each line executing. If you hit that a split second before your GCD finishes, you will see your second skill pop. With that macro, you will see a fair percentage of Stone 1 and 2s popping up if you blindly spam. I did the same thing with Broil and Ruin1, and I have had to train myself to time it instead of spamming it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    No, it won't be reliable. When you use a macro, the lines are not all executed simultaneously. There is a split second delay between each line executing. If you hit that a split second before your GCD finishes, you will see your second skill pop. With that macro, you will see a fair percentage of Stone 1 and 2s popping up if you blindly spam. I did the same thing with Broil and Ruin1, and I have had to train myself to time it instead of spamming it.
    Confirming this to be the case . ah well, guess I will just keep them separate for now. thanks all!
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    What Giantslayer said is right but I found a way to avoid this split second breaking the priority spells.

    You just have to add more Stone 3 and Stone 2 so that you can still "spam" the macro without any issue, something like that :

    /ac "Stone III" <t>
    /ac "Stone III" <tt>
    /ac "Stone III" <t>
    /ac "Stone III" <tt>
    /ac "Stone III" <t>
    /ac "Stone III" <tt>
    /ac "Stone II" <t>
    /ac "Stone II" <tt>
    /ac "Stone II" <t>
    /ac "Stone II" <tt>
    /ac "Stone II" <t>
    /ac "Stone II" <tt>
    /ac "Stone" <t>
    /ac "Stone" <tt>

    I can't assure it's 100% reliable but I had no fails for a while now that I can easily say it's around 99%.
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    Kanya Nague
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    if u use a macro you add your latency to the casting time, its not worth it.
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    Scarlet Dawnblade
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    This is how I handled mine

    /micon "Cleric Stance"
    /hotbar action "Stone II" #X #X
    /hotbar action "Stone III" #X #X
    /ac "Cleric Stance"

    so I actually made it so whenever I hit cleric stance, it will change the spell that is in the hotbar slot. I only put Stone II and III there cus I use Stone I for the Heavy while out in the world so I just leave it on my bar at all times. If you don't use it like me you can just add the line /hotbar action "Stone II" #X #X (where the first X is the hotbar and the second X is the key number you want to use) to the macro before Stone II and it should be good to go. The game doesn't add skills to the bar that are not available currently, so when you are level synced, this macro will always have your highest Stone on that spot. Haven't had any issues so far other than my chat getting error messages every time I hit the macro because of skills not being available. But that's easily ignored or fixed in the settings. Hope that helps.
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