Comparing The Chocobo Quests in 11 and 14

[mikefmc]

I don't see why being easier than FFXI is an issue.

Does everything that SE add HAVE to be harder than FFXI? lol....

They should just start charging everyone the monthly fee and I bet people would stop comparing FFXI to FFXIV and just quit.

No offense to OP, i was just venting a bit after reading one too many FFXI vs FFXIV posts.

I would be ok with something equally challenging. but it doesnt look like ill even get that.

[Endemerrin]

1. As has been stated already, this is the bare bones of the Chocobo system. There's a lot more to come, and more than likely a lot more to occupy your time.

2. Surprised I haven't seen anyone mention how weak FFXIV rentals are compared to FFXI rentals.
FFXI rentals were both A. Fast, and B. On 30 minute timers.

FFXIV rentals appear to be rather slow (judging by how fast terrain moves by, it seems like they're a lot slower than FFXI's rentals, but I could be mistaken. No way to really know for sure.) and they only last ten minutes.

I think it's a fair trade to have the rentals a bit easier, seeing as 10 minutes is barely anything as far as travel time is concerned.

[Bigglesworth]

contemplating just removing my OP all together. Was trying to counter all the haters saying FFXIV is super easy this and that, by showing there is actually something that takes a little more time than it did in 11, but I didn't realize I wasn't comparing apples to apples. As it has already been pointed out if you are comparing rentals to rentals, 14 will be easier and quicker. /facepalm

[Starlord]

Rental Chocobo= Rank 10 ( However slower than Personal)

Personal Chocobo= Rank 22 ( Higher than Recruit, Right now Were technically on Recruit for all or at least 1 of the Grand Companies, so the next Rank is "Higher than Recruit hmmm). However how many Quests will it take to reach the next rank? is it 1? 2? 3? 7? That remains an uncertainty. How long will these Quests be? 15 mins? 30 mins? 1 hr? 2 hrs? Also, Personal Chocobos ARE faster than Rental ones, so it only makes sense to make Rentals @ R10 so at least the Newbies have something Rather than nothing, till they get to Rank 22 quests which Can be hard to accomplish. ( sense were doing above Recruit Missions Logic would state it will be harder ( to solo) at Rank 22

So all in all We don't have BARELY any information on How Long It will take, How many Quests needs to be done etc.

Newbies= Longer ( unless high level is willing to give up time to help) ( could take a day or 2 once R22).
High Ranks= Probably the 6hrs maybe more depending how everything is layed out


That's how I feel about it right now.

[Teknoman]

Rental Chocobo= Rank 10 ( However slower than Personal)

Personal Chocobo= Rank 22 ( Higher than Recruit, Right now Were technically on Recruit for all or at least 1 of the Grand Companies, so the next Rank is "Higher than Recruit hmmm). However how many Quests will it take to reach the next rank? is it 1? 2? 3? 7? That remains an uncertainty. How long will these Quests be? 15 mins? 30 mins? 1 hr? 2 hrs? Also, Personal Chocobos ARE faster than Rental ones, so it only makes sense to make Rentals @ R10 so at least the Newbies have something Rather than nothing, till they get to Rank 22 quests which Can be hard to accomplish. ( sense were doing above Recruit Missions Logic would state it will be harder ( to solo) at Rank 22

So all in all We don't have BARELY any information on How Long It will take, How many Quests needs to be done etc.

Newbies= Longer ( unless high level is willing to give up time to help) ( could take a day or 2 once R22).
High Ranks= Probably the 6hrs maybe more depending how everything is layed out


That's how I feel about it right now.

Exactly, people are just automatically assuming, and some even completely misreading the provided info. Sure it costs 3000 seals, but how much to the next rank? Will we have to turn in seals to reach a quest just to obtain the next rank? At what rate will we get seals from new company quests or caravan escorts?

So many other factors go into this besides just turning in 3k seals after having progressed to a rank higher than recruit.

[indira]

FFXIV gimp to hell the whole MMO genre lol.

dont see how SE made FFXI & FFXIV the difference is insane, FFXI had gameplay, FFXIV has none at all even a year later 3000 seal then you have a chocobo lol.

[Davorok]

I absolutely hate the new Chocobo quest that I haven't done yet.

Same goes for the new unreleased Jobs...they are LAME!

Don't even get me started on that new Escort Quest...What a complete waste of time that was.

And Beastmen Strongholds...more like Beastmen Weakholds.

Materia has ruined crafting...ruined I tell ya'.

In fact all the new stuff that I haven't done yet because it hasn't even been released yet, has ruined my beloved FFXIV forever!

p.s. sorry for the sarcasm. Normally I do not vent like this but I got an upset tummy today and all the rage threads are getting to me lately. I'll try to /ignore like before.

[feint2021]

FFXIV gimp to hell the whole MMO genre lol.

dont see how SE made FFXI & FFXIV the difference is insane, FFXI had gameplay, FFXIV has none at all even a year later 3000 seal then you have a chocobo lol.

How is it gimping, it's making the current transportation situation better. Obtaining a personal chocobo in FFXI was long and retarded (don't forget you had to recharge your whistle).

[Leknaat]

FF14: earn rank 22 > do dungeon prereq quests > 750 seals > grind to r25 to enter the r25 dungeon > 1000 seals. That's only 1750 seals.

Anyone that hasn't done the R45 dungeons isn't going to be in a position to get their own personal company chocobo even with the 1000 seal handouts they're giving for founder's day unless the quests to rank up conveniently cover the missing amount (which I won't rule out).

FF11: get rank 20 > spend 6 hours babysitting a sick chocobo. Do the Lost chocobo quest running around all over the place. Spend several weeks raising an egg/chick. <- notice the ridiculous amount of time sink.

The 'hardcore' loyalists have been waiting a year, even if they quit, they're likely to come back 6-8 months later when more in-depth content gets added in - but the casual player that's had a frustrating player experience is likely to NEVER give the game a second try.

The game is going to be designed for accessiblity, with the casual players in mind. It's important that they can get around quickly and efficiently. The hardcore content (breeding etc) will just have to come later because, we need the transportation sooner than later.

SE doesn't want to be a niche hardcore MMO with fans numbering around 500,000. Let's face it... companies make MMOs because they hope to be the next WoW with like 10million subscribers and raking in the cash. If making chocobos accessible to r10 players take them one step closer to that goal you can bet they'll do it.

[Tsukino]

Just thought I'd mention "standing around for 5-6 hours" like everyone says was obviously not the intention of the developers. They meant for you to come back and feed it whenever you had time, and slowly nurse it back to health. Players just realized it would only accept one per day and chose to be single-minded about it, parking in Jeuno and doing nothing but waiting an hour to feed it.

It's not a very good design, sure, but the game is old and having everyone stand around was not the intention.