Comparing The Chocobo Quests in 11 and 14

[Bigglesworth]

Final Fantasy 11:

Minimum Rank - 20

Talk to NPC Brutus and trade a Gausebit Grass to the chocobo. The chocobo will not accept the grass at this time. Come back on another game day and try to feed it again. The chocobo will still not accept the grass. Come back on the third day and the chocobo will now accept the grass. You must now feed the chocobo 3 more times in 3 different game days to complete the quest and gain ability to ride the chocobo.
Final Fantasy 14

Minimum Rank - 22 for Company

Join a Grand Company in one of the three cities. You must obtain 3,000 credits to obtain the ability to ride a chocobo. To obtain 3,000 credits you must do the initial quests and the dungeons to earn the necessary credits. Additionally you must also advance past recruit stage in one of the companies in order to qualify for the chocobo.

Synopsis: For first glance it appears that the required effort and time to obtain the ability to ride a chocobo from both games is not only about the same. But it appears to be more difficult in 14. Granted this would be from a new player's perspective, but even if you had 3,000 credits saved up, you still need to do the next set of quests to obtain the next rank above recruit to qualify for the chocobo.

Additionally while it may be must faster to get rank 10 in FF14 as opposed to level 20 in FF11, you wouldn't be able to earn the required credits in a company as a rank 10 player. You would still have to get up to 45 in order to enter the Darkhold.

Conclusion: From a new player perspective, getting a chocobo in 14 will take more time and effort than in 11.

[Xatsh]

People keep comparing personal chocos in XIV to rentals in XI, and they are not the same at all.

Rental:
FFXI: Get to rank 20 and do the choco quest as the OP stated (Takes 4hrs)
FFXIV: walk up to the rental guy and pay the fee to ride it (To my knowledge no quest at all)

Personal:
FFXI: Go through a several week process of carefully feeding your choco, then bread it with other chocos and repeat until you get a High rank on the skill to make it not worthless (Takes literally months)
FFXIV: Get 3000 Seals, doable in a day.

[Teknoman]

People keep comparing personal chocos in XIV to rentals in XI, and they are not the same at all.

Rental:
FFXI: Get to rank 20 and do the choco quest as the OP stated (Takes 4hrs)
FFXIV: walk up to the rental guy and pay the fee to ride it (To my knowledge no quest at all)

Personal:
FFXI: Go through a several week process of carefully feeding your choco, then bread it with other chocos and repeat until you get a High rank on the skill to make it not worthless (Takes literally months)
FFXIV: Get 3000 Seals, doable in a day.

Technically these still arent the same since these chocobo are Company issued, pre trained Chocobo. Also it may not be doable in a day. We have no idea how many seals people under 50 (and there are alot) will be for completing caravan escorts or lower level added grand company quests. I'm level 33, and will most likely have to put in a decent amount of effort to snag those seals.

Even then, not everyone rank 45+ has beaten the Darkhold, so they may not have enough either.

Not only that, but dont forget that the XIV chocobo system will eventually go deeper (both breeding and chocobo based combat).

[Bigglesworth]

People keep comparing personal chocos in XIV to rentals in XI, and they are not the same at all.

Rental:
FFXI: Get to rank 20 and do the choco quest as the OP stated (Takes 4hrs)
FFXIV: walk up to the rental guy and pay the fee to ride it (To my knowledge no quest at all)

Personal:
FFXI: Go through a several week process of carefully feeding your choco, then bread it with other chocos and repeat until you get a High rank on the skill to make it not worthless (Takes literally months)
FFXIV: Get 3000 Seals, doable in a day.

True but they aren't really "personal" they are "company" chocobos. FFXI personal chocobos were much more involved.

[goonMagi]

Your post is quite misleading.

First off, you have to join a grand company. That right there is minimum rank of 22.

So right off the bat you are giving out false information. Secondly the price of buying one is 3000 company seals, which may or may not increase. On top of this, you have to be "above the rank of recruit" in order to be eligible for buying a chocobo. This could mean that we need rank 5, or rank 2, or anything about 1 (where 1 is recruit).

This probably amounts to 3000 + (cost of getting whatever rank) in company seals.

[Jynx]

People keep comparing personal chocos in XIV to rentals in XI, and they are not the same at all.

Rental:
FFXI: Get to rank 20 and do the choco quest as the OP stated (Takes 4hrs)
FFXIV: walk up to the rental guy and pay the fee to ride it (To my knowledge no quest at all)

Personal:
FFXI: Go through a several week process of carefully feeding your choco, then bread it with other chocos and repeat until you get a High rank on the skill to make it not worthless (Takes literally months)
FFXIV: Get 3000 Seals, doable in a day.

Was going to say this, XI quest was just for the right to rent a chocobo...something in XI you get without even doing anything aside from hitting rank 10.

Getting a personal chocobo took alot of time, and even then had limited use.

[AdvancedWind]

People keep comparing personal chocos in XIV to rentals in XI, and they are not the same at all.

Rental:
FFXI: Get to rank 20 and do the choco quest as the OP stated (Takes 4hrs)
FFXIV: walk up to the rental guy and pay the fee to ride it (To my knowledge no quest at all)

Personal:
FFXI: Go through a several week process of carefully feeding your choco, then bread it with other chocos and repeat until you get a High rank on the skill to make it not worthless (Takes literally months)
FFXIV: Get 3000 Seals, doable in a day.

3000 seals for a basic chocobo, there will still be breeding and other chocobo growth activties which may or may not be more involved than the XI version. Yoshi-P already stated it.

You are comparing getting 'lv1 chocobo' on XIV to getting 'lv99 chocobo' in XI and saying "lol XIV is easier lol". As far as we know, this initial personal chocobo may as well be worthless when mounted battles are implemented.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

People keep comparing personal chocos in XIV to rentals in XI, and they are not the same at all.

Rental:
FFXI: Get to rank 20 and do the choco quest as the OP stated (Takes 4hrs)
FFXIV: walk up to the rental guy and pay the fee to ride it (To my knowledge no quest at all)

Personal:
FFXI: Go through a several week process of carefully feeding your choco, then bread it with other chocos and repeat until you get a High rank on the skill to make it not worthless (Takes literally months)
FFXIV: Get 3000 Seals, doable in a day.

Less of a time sink does not make one over the other easier. There was nothing hard about buying some grass and giving it to a Chocobo every 5 hours in a game. Actually it was really dumb and pointless and left no good memories for anyone I ever played FFXI with. It does have a lower level range but the rental Chocobos are going to be slower.

Personal Chocobos is easier to obtain in FFXIV assuming you already have a r45+ class and yes the quests are doable in a day assuming you are that rank but the dungeons themselves are harder than that laughable 1+ month chocobo breeding crap. You also say to have a chocobo that is worth a flip it takes months but that is not what the argument is about, it is about obtaining one period and that does take a month which was silly. There was nothing hard about walk up to an NPC and picking some options it was nothing more than a glorified time sink to give the illusion of content to make some of the FFXI players happy. To obtain a Chocobo whether it be slow or fast all you had to do was bring an egg to an npc and set up a 4 week regimen or visit it once a week.

I pray to God that SE doesn't make the same mistake this time around when giving us Chocobo breeding by giving us that boring stupid crappy system that was in FFXI and give us something more akin to FF7 hands on breeding system where you actually have to use your Chocobo in different ways to build its stats and not just pick an option to talk a long walk or a short walk. Though they have already told us that Chocobos are going to be more than just mounts and we will be able to have them fight along with us so I have a feeling we are getting the hands on Chocobo raising and breeding whenever that comes along that I was talking about.

Just thought I'd mention "standing around for 5-6 hours" like everyone says was obviously not the intention of the developers. They meant for you to come back and feed it whenever you had time, and slowly nurse it back to health. Players just realized it would only accept one per day and chose to be single-minded about it, parking in Jeuno and doing nothing but waiting an hour to feed it.

It's not a very good design, sure, but the game is old and having everyone stand around was not the intention.

I understand this but there was so many times someone in my party would leave group or every hour would say "HEY I GOTTA FEED MY CHOCOBO" durka dur, Jeffy likes apples. Then the party would disband because someone would get pissed about it. The quest wasn't well thought out when they made it.

[DoctorMog]

Exactly.

FFXI:
Get to rank 20 and do the chocobo feeding quest.

FFXIV:
Get to rank 10:

Conclusion: FFXIV is easier.

[Anonymoose]

Conclusion: FFXIV is easier.

Because after literally after a year of people bitching about how ridiculous it is that we need transportation, how long it takes to get everywhere, and how stupid it is that there are no chocobos - they wanted them to be easily accessible. SURPRISE!

Why is this a shock to everyone? If complaints about something are universal, they get "Fixed." You don't get to choose what fixed means, and I think that's something the playerbase needs to understand. When you ask for CHANGE, you don't automatically get your best case scenario - when you ask for CHANGE you're admitting that you'd rather take the risk of getting something you don't want in exchange for not having to adapt to something you've already decided you don't like.

Yoshida-san's team is giving people what they asked for.

I'm sure breeding will be intricate and difficult if/when it ever comes around. You wandered around the desert for hours for a YEAR. You've EARNED your HANDOUT.