Astrologian Needs Changes

[Rewind]

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You are making so many assumptions, once again, before savage has been released. There's never been a time in any of the current content where I felt my other healer companion was "carrying me". I've talked to other healers and whilst we all generally agree that nocturnal stance is absolutely broken and useless, Diurnal stance is overall fine for content.

Healing is not a competition. It's about working as a team. If that means the SCH/WHM you are paired with has to spend a little less time in cleric stance then that is 100% fine. It's not like your heals as AST are taking away health from a player - your other healer will be fine.

A healers first priority is healing. DPS is an added benefit. If a WHM/SCH team have the ability to spend a little more time in cleric stance, that is also 100% fine but it doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things - DPS still need to do DPS things, work hard, and meet DPS checks.

[SuzakuCMX]

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I didn't make any assumptions. I posted two situations for the tuning of Savage Coil: either you need to heal enough as a SCH/WHM to pass heal checks or you need to heal as much as an AST to pass heal checks. One of those two will be true because AST heals for less than a SCH/WHM. There are consequences for either as right now AST is in need of a balance pass, and I posted those consequences.

A healers first priority is healing. DPS is an added benefit.

Yoshi-P said they have accounted for healers being able to DPS in raids. Whether that means they made it harder to DPS as healers via constant heavy damage or have made it so DPS checks will generally require your healer to DPS is unknown. But it's more likely to be the latter IMO, so AST is going to fall behind there.

[Alahra]

Yoshi-P said they have accounted for healers being able to DPS in raids.

I think you're misinterpreting what he said, really. He basically said they weren't planning on making any changes in regards to healer DPS, as they don't want to take away from the options available for "world first" style groups to push for those first clears. In regards to the actual DPS checks, though, he specifically said they don't factor in healer DPS when calculating them.

[SuzakuCMX]

I think you're misinterpreting what he said, really. He basically said they weren't planning on making any changes in regards to healer DPS, as they don't want to take away from the options available for "world first" style groups to push for those first clears. In regards to the actual DPS checks, though, he specifically said they don't factor in healer DPS when calculating them.

I can't actually find the article anymore so I'll take your word for it.

[Thela]

Yoshi-P said they have accounted for healers being able to DPS in raids.

Yoshida: For development, such as with Bahamut's Coils, the development team assumes what the item level should be for general equipment on players when they clear a raid. They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS.

Once again, healer DPS was not included in the development team's calculation as it was for other jobs, so you should just think of healer DPS as a last way to get your overall party's DPS up to where it needs to be.

I don't know why so many ppl have misunderstood what he said, the wording is quite clear to me. Had to cut out some of the quote cause i can't post more than 1000 characters, but the main point should be clear.