Astrologian Needs Changes

[ckc22]

You asked to be able to switch stance in battle. To which I say sure. As soon as whm has shields and sch gets regens. Instead of wanting a unique healer/niche you just want to outmode the other two.

Again: hybrid classes want to be better than both of the things they're hybrids of while ignoring that being a hybrid grants them versatility.

[Rajeme]

You asked to be able to switch stance in battle. To which I say sure. As soon as whm has shields and sch gets regens. Instead of wanting a unique healer/niche you just want to outmode the other two.

Again: hybrid classes want to be better than both of the things they're hybrids of while ignoring that being a hybrid grants them versatility.

You seem to get the order reverse. Yes. Hybrid grants versatility. Except, currently, it's half-baked. You cannot switch stances in battles, that means you're pretty much limited to 1 of the 2 branches. That's why I said it's not that versatile. Being able to switch stances makes you more versatile, right?

Also, having both regens and shields doesn't necessarily make them outmode/more powerful than both whm and sch at all.

And for unique healer, AST have cards. I didn't even touch this aspect. The main reason AST is unique is because they have card system, not only because they have both regen and shield.

[ckc22]

You seem to get the order reverse. Yes. Hybrid grants versatility. Except, currently, it's half-baked. You cannot switch stances in battles, that means you're pretty much limited to 1 of the 2 branches. That's why I said it's not that versatile. Being able to switch stances makes you more versatile, right?

Also, having both regens and shields doesn't necessarily make them outmode/more powerful than both whm and sch at all.

And for unique healer, AST have cards. I didn't even touch this aspect. The main reason AST is unique is because they have card system, not only because they have both regen and shield.

Which is exactly why they should focus on making their cards more useful/unique rather than just handing over scholar/white mage abilities to them.

[Mimilu]

Agree with the OP.

Suggestions
- Make it so Shuffle doesn't draw the same card, this would help a lot more.
- Maybe make a skill that switches to cards to their opposite, switching Bole to Balance, Ewer to Spire, Spear to Arrow, and vice-verse.

[Azorius]

You asked to be able to switch stance in battle. To which I say sure. As soon as whm has shields and sch gets regens. Instead of wanting a unique healer/niche you just want to outmode the other two.

Again: hybrid classes want to be better than both of the things they're hybrids of while ignoring that being a hybrid grants them versatility.

Just want to point out that Eos/Selene is the best regen in game...

[Krixus]

Just want to point out that Eos/Selene is the best regen in game...

Only its not a regen.

[Azorius]

Only its not a regen.

Not exactly but Summon (on SCH) is an ability you "set & forget" that provides continuous healing which makes it functionally identical to a regen. The fact that it is indefinite (except in rare cases where you let her die), smart-healing and party wide makes it the best.

[Azorius]

Only its not a regen.

Oh and let's not forget, zero personal enmity...

[ckc22]

Just want to point out that Eos/Selene is the best regen in game...

Except we're balanced around it based on our other potencies and they've nerfed our fairies - try again next time.

[SuzakuCMX]

You asked to be able to switch stance in battle. To which I say sure. As soon as whm has shields and sch gets regens. Instead of wanting a unique healer/niche you just want to outmode the other two.

Again: hybrid classes want to be better than both of the things they're hybrids of while ignoring that being a hybrid grants them versatility.

It's hard to call it a hybrid class when you only get to use either the shields or regen in a battle. If they could use both shields and heal in a battle, they'd be fantastic. But imagine if SCH and SMN were one class with Cleric Stance and half the job skills, and if you went into Cleric Stance you could only switch out-of-combat. They'd be trash, because they are "versatile" but only get to use half of their versatility even though it's nerfed.

Except we're balanced around it based on our other potencies and they've nerfed our fairies - try again next time.

AST's "SCH" stance is missing the fairy and its skills + the ability to buff throughput + the mana management + the utility of Supervirus/E4E/Energy Drain/Bane, with the assumption that your Benefic II being equal to Cure II will cover it....which it doesn't because it just makes the fact that the subpar mana management is there even worse. Shields also can't crit.