Astrologian Needs Changes

[Rajeme]

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Except, it's not that versatile, no?

And no, I didn't say "why can't I be as good as both whm and sch at the same time", pretty much not the same time. I specially mentioned the total value of a hybrid should be equal to other healers, otherwise it's unbalance. Total value doesn't only have healing potency...

And obviously, lots of the solutions here are not to be taken very seriously. Solutions from players are often biased and lack of realistic statistic, including you and mine. But of course, there are some good ideas here and there. So it's better not to generalize them.

[ckc22]

You asked to be able to switch stance in battle. To which I say sure. As soon as whm has shields and sch gets regens. Instead of wanting a unique healer/niche you just want to outmode the other two.

Again: hybrid classes want to be better than both of the things they're hybrids of while ignoring that being a hybrid grants them versatility.

[Rajeme]

You asked to be able to switch stance in battle. To which I say sure. As soon as whm has shields and sch gets regens. Instead of wanting a unique healer/niche you just want to outmode the other two.

Again: hybrid classes want to be better than both of the things they're hybrids of while ignoring that being a hybrid grants them versatility.

You seem to get the order reverse. Yes. Hybrid grants versatility. Except, currently, it's half-baked. You cannot switch stances in battles, that means you're pretty much limited to 1 of the 2 branches. That's why I said it's not that versatile. Being able to switch stances makes you more versatile, right?

Also, having both regens and shields doesn't necessarily make them outmode/more powerful than both whm and sch at all.

And for unique healer, AST have cards. I didn't even touch this aspect. The main reason AST is unique is because they have card system, not only because they have both regen and shield.

[ckc22]

You seem to get the order reverse. Yes. Hybrid grants versatility. Except, currently, it's half-baked. You cannot switch stances in battles, that means you're pretty much limited to 1 of the 2 branches. That's why I said it's not that versatile. Being able to switch stances makes you more versatile, right?

Also, having both regens and shields doesn't necessarily make them outmode/more powerful than both whm and sch at all.

And for unique healer, AST have cards. I didn't even touch this aspect. The main reason AST is unique is because they have card system, not only because they have both regen and shield.

Which is exactly why they should focus on making their cards more useful/unique rather than just handing over scholar/white mage abilities to them.

[Mimilu]

Agree with the OP.

Suggestions
- Make it so Shuffle doesn't draw the same card, this would help a lot more.
- Maybe make a skill that switches to cards to their opposite, switching Bole to Balance, Ewer to Spire, Spear to Arrow, and vice-verse.

[Azorius]

You asked to be able to switch stance in battle. To which I say sure. As soon as whm has shields and sch gets regens. Instead of wanting a unique healer/niche you just want to outmode the other two.

Again: hybrid classes want to be better than both of the things they're hybrids of while ignoring that being a hybrid grants them versatility.

Just want to point out that Eos/Selene is the best regen in game...

[Krixus]

Just want to point out that Eos/Selene is the best regen in game...

Only its not a regen.

[Azorius]

Only its not a regen.

Not exactly but Summon (on SCH) is an ability you "set & forget" that provides continuous healing which makes it functionally identical to a regen. The fact that it is indefinite (except in rare cases where you let her die), smart-healing and party wide makes it the best.

[Azorius]

Only its not a regen.

Oh and let's not forget, zero personal enmity...

[ckc22]

Just want to point out that Eos/Selene is the best regen in game...

Except we're balanced around it based on our other potencies and they've nerfed our fairies - try again next time.