Astrologian Needs Changes

[Rewind]

Hm...I'm watching translation for the live letter. It seems changes will be made to AST's card system. The basic healing system will not be changed. Having mixed feeling about this.

Happy for card changes - wish they addressed Nocturnal stance.

[Krixus]

Hm...I'm watching translation for the live letter. It seems changes will be made to AST's card system. The basic healing system will not be changed. Having mixed feeling about this.

That's all I wanted was card improvements. No problems with thier healing output.

[lordparanoia]

That's all I wanted was card improvements. No problems with thier healing output.

Agree with you.
But I would have loved some adjustment on Lightspeed and Collective, and Celestial Opposition too. ç_ç

[Rajeme]

Happy for card changes - wish they addressed Nocturnal stance.

I'm all happy with the changes. It seems their direction is to make cards more dominant to offset the difference in healing output and other disadvantages compare to other healers.

If they do it right, yeah I'm a happy panda.

[ckc22]

Well, not saying AST needs to be better than other healers. But for the sake of balance, the total value of the hybrid should be equal to others. That includes healing ability and support ability. And the inability to switch sects midfight kinda destroyed the hybrid value though.

It wasn't directed at anyone in particular - but the gist of all of these threads is "why is my _____ not as good as whm/sch."

And your post is just more evidence "why can't I be as good as a whm and a sch at the same time?"

I'm sure there are real issues, but the "solutions" I see around here are just requests to be blatantly overpowered. Your versatility is part of that "true value."

[Rajeme]

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Except, it's not that versatile, no?

And no, I didn't say "why can't I be as good as both whm and sch at the same time", pretty much not the same time. I specially mentioned the total value of a hybrid should be equal to other healers, otherwise it's unbalance. Total value doesn't only have healing potency...

And obviously, lots of the solutions here are not to be taken very seriously. Solutions from players are often biased and lack of realistic statistic, including you and mine. But of course, there are some good ideas here and there. So it's better not to generalize them.

[ckc22]

You asked to be able to switch stance in battle. To which I say sure. As soon as whm has shields and sch gets regens. Instead of wanting a unique healer/niche you just want to outmode the other two.

Again: hybrid classes want to be better than both of the things they're hybrids of while ignoring that being a hybrid grants them versatility.

[Rajeme]

You asked to be able to switch stance in battle. To which I say sure. As soon as whm has shields and sch gets regens. Instead of wanting a unique healer/niche you just want to outmode the other two.

Again: hybrid classes want to be better than both of the things they're hybrids of while ignoring that being a hybrid grants them versatility.

You seem to get the order reverse. Yes. Hybrid grants versatility. Except, currently, it's half-baked. You cannot switch stances in battles, that means you're pretty much limited to 1 of the 2 branches. That's why I said it's not that versatile. Being able to switch stances makes you more versatile, right?

Also, having both regens and shields doesn't necessarily make them outmode/more powerful than both whm and sch at all.

And for unique healer, AST have cards. I didn't even touch this aspect. The main reason AST is unique is because they have card system, not only because they have both regen and shield.

[GideonHighmourn]

I always thought from the beginning that AST was meant to switch between Nocturnal and Dirunal Sect for versatility, which they gain in exchange for having lower potency healing. It would give the class some much needed flavor, increase skill cap, and provide a reason to actually use Nocturnal Sect. I do think it would improve their 4-man healing game, but might still need some MP adjustments. However, being able to switch stances doesn't really do them any favors in an 8-man situation, in any combination of healers; it would still be annoying to have AST/SCH with AST in Nocturnal. Hopefully, the card changes increase their utility power in 8-man situations, kind of balancing the scales a bit.

[Mimilu]

Agree with the OP.

Suggestions
- Make it so Shuffle doesn't draw the same card, this would help a lot more.
- Maybe make a skill that switches to cards to their opposite, switching Bole to Balance, Ewer to Spire, Spear to Arrow, and vice-verse.