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    GideonHighmourn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    You just defined an estimation "based on real data."

    Your friend is not reporting correctly. Assuming similar performance with each attempt, it is mathematically impossible for the raid to experience a 500 DPS increase simply because of the presence of AST rather than SCH.
    This.

    Unless one of your DPS is sporting 10k DPS; Balance is a 10% boost, with at most a 50% up time (discounting time Dilation, but still wouldn't make it near 100%) given it's drawn 100% of the time (which it's not). Even using Empowered Royal Road for 15% instead of 10%, you'd be halving your up time on Draws. Even with using Expanded Royal Road, you'd still lose out on a Draw.

    Otherwise, it's statistically impossible for AST to add 500 DPS to a raid group through buffs.

    Nice try though.

    It's possible your friend meant his AST added (nearly) 500 DPS including buffs and his own DPS, which is possible. However, that would likely meant he spent 90% of his time in Cleric Stance, didn't heal, and drew Balance nearly every time; SCH could easily do the same, while still contributing Embrace ever 2.5s and Selene's haste buff with far less effort and RNG involved. Another DPS could also easily provide more, if that's the case where another healer was essentially solo healing the encounter.
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    Last edited by GideonHighmourn; 07-04-2015 at 06:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GideonHighmourn View Post
    It's possible your friend meant his AST added (nearly) 500 DPS including buffs and his own DPS, which is possible. However, that would likely meant he spent 90% of his time in Cleric Stance, didn't heal, and drew Balance nearly every time; SCH could easily do the same, while still contributing Embrace ever 2.5s and Selene's haste buff with far less effort and RNG involved. Another DPS could also easily provide more, if that's the case where another healer was essentially solo healing the encounter.
    That's one of the best parts of SCH: if everything is going according to plan, you can just slip into CS and go to town for a bit. Even if people suddenly get hit, you can drop CS in a heartbeat and Tinkerbell will be there to start healing right away, even without your intervention.

    Also, there's nothing better than being saved from a wipe because you got silenced and then your Selene dispels it immediately...

    Seriously, ASTs need to bring SOOOOOOO much more to the table to rival the healing power and utility of the other healers...

    And that's the other problem I keep seeing: AST isn't a class in a vacuum. It has two other healing classes to compete with, and you'd best believe that all raid content is going to be balanced around the most potent healers that can be brought to each encounter.

    We can look at fighting games as a parallel, here: it doesn't matter how amazing a character's moves look on paper. What matters is how well each of their matchups with the other characters in the game go, and right now, AST is definitely trailing the other two classes.

    After all, if raid content was balanced around the idea that you could dual-AST heal it, groups bringing WHM/SCH would have it cleared in less than a week.
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    Last edited by RichardButte; 07-04-2015 at 07:27 AM.

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