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    Kiteless's Avatar
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    Bluethroat Cantus
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
    then why did you level it

    why are you still playing it lol

    you also cried not viable when people didn't want warriors while we were clearing primals and coil too xD
    Because, despite all the problems it has, it's still an incredibly fun class to play, and I can't see myself going back to the other tanking classes after falling into that delicious DRK groove. Is there a problem with being able to like a class, while still acknowledging the serious flaws it possesses?



    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    The issue is you continue to speak in absolutes: "WAR/PLD is always preferable to DRK". But it's not. It is not always better to take a WAR/PLD. The only case in which it is better is if you don't trust your tank player to be able to time his CDs correctly. If the tank player is competent in that regard, the null position is that no tank job is preferable to another.

    Again, WAR/PLD is sometimes preferable to DRK, particularly when you're attempting difficult content with a tank you don't know or don't trust. Just drop the "always" and we're in agreement... never a good idea to speak in absolutes.
    No, it's not. Name a single relevant thing that DRK offers in either the MT or OT role that's better for a party than what WAR or PLD might offer for endgame content.

    Additionally, I do not want to see DRK with LNC cross class skills. Blood For Blood would lead to a legion's worth of terrible dead tanks, and a horrible reputation for DRK players that would never see them get another party outside of duty finder again.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiteless View Post
    Additionally, I do not want to see DRK with LNC cross class skills. Blood For Blood would lead to a legion's worth of terrible dead tanks, and a horrible reputation for DRK players that would never see them get another party outside of duty finder again.
    Sorry, but that's actually a very bad point. "Let's not give a job something good because bad players won't know how to use it.
    Why don't we simply remove Blood for Blood in fear that bad DPS will die because of it ?

    As long as the job is well designed, we don't care about "reputation".
    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Lastly I would drop Mercy Stroke for Blood for Blood, better and more reliable dps gain but with a risk (good for OT but dangerous as MT).
    Risk/reward. It'll give good tanks more option to be better at managing their skills
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 07-02-2015 at 03:12 AM.

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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Sorry, but that's actually a very bad point. "Let's not give a job something good because bad players won't know how to use it.
    Why don't we simply remove Blood for Blood in fear that bad DPS will die because of it ?
    Because unlike tanks, a DPS' job is to avoid getting hit. As a class that suffers from already having the worst mitigation of the tanks, the solution to its problems is definitely not a skill like B4B. And if that's what it takes to catch up to the level of damage output of the other tanks, there's something wrong with out kit as it is, and we shouldn't have to make that trade in the first place. We'd do better with a 5% buff to darkside than B4B.
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