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    Ladon's Avatar
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    Resa Nome
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    Cyrus, that's not your only mistake.

    Opening with Goring Blade has no bonus Enmity, and further delaying your Halone with Swipe doesn't help much either. Do we have concrete numbers yet on Shield Swipes additional enmity?

    A good PLD pull would be like this:
    Shield Lob(FoF), Fast Blade(SW + CnS), Savage Blade(Bloodbath or a defensive CD to smooth intake) Halone, then Goring.

    Check threat after you place Goring, if DPS are getting high, Halone, if you're safe, then replace Halone after a Royal. Use Shield Swipe only as a TP saving tool, and it's ok to clip Goring Blade at 5-6 seconds due to the potency being so much higher than Royal.
    I highly disagree here. Paladins should be opening with the Goring Blade combo now and be trying to get two Gorings in with the opener FoF.

    A FoF shield lob + CoS + Spirits + Fast Blade is plenty of aggro at the start where DDs are still ramping up their damage as well. A shield swipe after the first Goring will solidify this and give you plenty of time to move into the Halone combo. I've been doing this with a ~900 average DPS Monk in my party and I have never come close to losing aggro.

    The only exception to this might be fights like Ravana Ex where you likely want to get the STR debuff from Halone on him sooner than later.
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    Last edited by Ladon; 07-02-2015 at 03:54 AM.