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  1. #11
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    nyttyn's Avatar
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    Utsuho Reiuji
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Duty Roulette: You have Low Level, High Level, and Main Scenario that give massive daily bonuses, and they take 25-30 minutes each. Do at least one or two a day.


    I just wanna chime in and say the duty roulettes are 100% not worth it. All three only reward as much as a heavenward dungeon's clear EXP for completion - and unless you get a heavensward dungeon out of the low level roulette (unlikely), you're missing out on the oodles of EXP the mobs in those dungeons give you (esp bosses).
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyttyn View Post
    I just wanna chime in and say the duty roulettes are 100% not worth it. All three only reward as much as a heavenward dungeon's clear EXP for completion - and unless you get a heavensward dungeon out of the low level roulette (unlikely), you're missing out on the oodles of EXP the mobs in those dungeons give you (esp bosses).
    Do you have some numbers? It would be interesting to check actual numbers.
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  3. #13
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    Aria Elunia
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    Im almost 59 and my main story is still around churning mist (54) because of daily roulette. When I reach 60, it will be a waste doing main quests, I have to stop doing daily roulettes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Do you have some numbers? It would be interesting to check actual numbers.
    About 332,000 RESTED xp for Dusk Vigil (lv51 dungeon) in about 32 min with average DF team. I think it was about 215K unrested ?
    in comparison; 348,000 RESTED XP for The Vault (lv57) - > UNRESTED = 234,000. Takes about 27-32 minutes also

    Now low level dungeons ... Mobs don't give thousands of EXP, but barely 500 exp lol. And bosses give wayyyyy less as well. If you maange to get 50k EXP from a low level dungeon, that will be a miracle. That's why 50-75k eXP + 130 K from roulette isn't worth it when you can farm 200k + stable in 'high' level heavensward dungeons, especially with a premade (SMN ♥) able to speedrun aoe trash packs in seconds (for ex I managed a sub 22 minute run on Neverreap with 2 SMN for LAW farming)

    In the end, side questing gives about as much as current highest level heavensward dungeon you can run. Unless you take more than 3 minutes per side quest to complete it on average . .. (was an average of 10K EXP / minute)

    Now if you have a Lv60 already, sadly Northern Thanalan gives the most EXP if you don't have instant dungeon queue times, and even if you do, you still get more EXP if you aren't with RESTED bonus EXP lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyunckel View Post
    Now low level dungeons ... Mobs don't give thousands of EXP, but barely 500 exp lol. And bosses give wayyyyy less as well. If you maange to get 50k EXP from a low level dungeon, that will be a miracle. That's why 50-75k eXP + 130 K from roulette isn't worth it when you can farm 200k + stable in 'high' level heavensward dungeons, especially with a premade (SMN ♥) able to speedrun aoe trash packs in seconds (for ex I managed a sub 22 minute run on Neverreap with 2 SMN for LAW farming)

    The mobs in the low dungeons I've done give thousands of xp per kill. Just recently I did stone vigil and each mob gave 3k something xp
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  6. #16
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    Ayanno Kannagi
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    High, low, trials and Main Scenario all give 100-nearly 200k exp for completetion. Add that in with daily clan marks and it's not hard to level a second job, with or with side quests. Also mixing in a Heavensward dungeon helps.

    Of course, this isn't the best exp/hour, but it is a viable alternative to smashing your face against the Northern Thanalan FATE wall.
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    Vault gives more than 350k exp when rested, what a joke.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyunckel View Post
    Dusk Vigil (lv51 dungeon) in about 32 min with average DF team. I think it was about 215K unrested ?
    The Vault (lv57) - > UNRESTED = 234,000. Takes about 27-32 minutes also

    Now low level dungeons ... Mobs don't give thousands of EXP, but barely 500 exp lol.
    50k from a low level is simply not true. Did you actually enter through the roulette?

    If you enter through the roulette, each mob in low level dungeons will give at least over 1k EXP, some over 3k. I have not seen anything lower than 1k EXP per mob unless it's AoE trash that dies in 3 seconds. The seedlings in Aurum Vale, for example, if you let them hatch, each gives more than 3k EXP. The seedlings plus the Morbol in the room itself already exceed 50k.

    Now obviously if you have a premade, it's faster to farm your own dungeons. But without a premade, roulettes are great EXP.

    Trial Roulette has been giving me 90k~100k per trial. Main Roulette gives 200k~240k. Low Level Roulette probably about the same (and you could get the new dungeons, too).
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  9. #19
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    Solaria Luna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    I agree with everything except the challenge log.

    In a post-50 world, your challenge log is nearly worthless as a percentage of exp needed to level up. You're much better off using it to boost your sub-50 jobs. The dungeon exp will probably go to your main job just because, but active challenge log completion on a 50+ job is a waste of time.
    It's nice to have it completed though...as you have different targets in each class. (the new jobs don't have one because they're only jobs) Also, you'll be plowing through them anyway if they pop up in suggestions and you're a completionist.

    Also at this point I'd do the side quests that give equipment at least. So you already have the gear for the next class/job when it reaches the appropriate level. (I haven't seen any lately that hands out jewelry though...GRRRRR!)
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  10. #20
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solaria_Luna View Post
    It's nice to have it completed though...as you have different targets in each class. (the new jobs don't have one because they're only jobs) Also, you'll be plowing through them anyway if they pop up in suggestions and you're a completionist.
    I think you might be thinking of hunting logs, not challenge logs.

    And I think the improvement to the armory bonus was meant to offset the lack of hunting logs for the new jobs. Daily clan hunts are meant to replace hunting logs above 50.
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