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    Sorry but no. Then there will be a lot of complaining about how people join weekly clear groups and farm groups just for an easy clear.
    I am going to blunt. Players who have cleared content have no obligations to help others clear said content.

    Does the message single out players that are new or just lacking a clear? Yes, I agree. Honestly, I would probably just asking proof of clear whenever I make a pugged group for something and I am sure I wouldn't be the only one to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    Honestly, I would probably just asking proof of clear whenever I make a pugged group for something and I am sure I wouldn't be the only one to do so.
    I think you meant to say 'Party Finder' group. If you're using Duty finder with your inner circle of 3-4 friends and you decide not to use the 'reduced party' option, partied or not any and all room to complain about new players in your run is nul and void. As such, you should at least try to be helpful instead of chastising the new players for not 'properly preparing'. I say I've never watched videos alot when I'm the one popping the message, but half the time I have and, brutally honest, videos do nothing for me. I only learn a fight by, gasp, learning the fight. Alot of people are like this. And when I'm returning, I like to see if anyone else says their new, and will offer help when asked. Might want to try that yourself sometime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
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    1.) If you are using the DF and not expecting new people is just plain stupid
    2.) I was speaking about players who have content on farm as such using PF was heavily implied. I guess i should have been clearer.
    3.) I actually do help people when it interests me
    4.) If you are you using the DF and not watching a video before hand for hard content, you are hurting the group you are paired with. It is just rude and disrespectful since you could be wasting their time if they are farther in the fight then you. All so you can go into the fight blind. Please use the PF for blind runs.
    5.) Now did I say that I chastise new players in content. No, i didn't. I do try to give people the benefit of the doubt within reason especially in farm/clear PFs.
    6.) Again no one has the obligation yo help someone clear content. Just because you want to use your time on a fight learning a fight doesn't mean we have to use our time on you
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    Last edited by zcrash970; 07-01-2015 at 02:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    6.) Again no one has the obligation yo help someone clear content. Just because you want to use your time on a fight learning a fight doesn't mean we have to use our time on you
    The problem with this bullet point is that you make the rather grandiose claim that you've never had to learn the fight yourself. That you were somehow a pro at it as soon as it was content. Bold-faced lie as that is. We all had to learn the content, took multiple tries at beating the content, had friends and strangers alike help with the content. As such, we are all obligated to help those who come after. After all, if it hadn't been for those who went before we'd never have cleared it ourselves. Seriously, the stick's gone far enough, you can take it out now...
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