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    Intresting find on the japanese fourms

    プロデューサ/ディレクタの吉田です。

    ジャンプについて活発なディスカッションありがとうございます。
    検討中項目について、紛らわしい状態を生んでいるので、一旦整理しておきますね。

    ジャンプの検討⇒

    ・感情表現のひとつ
    ・移動中動作表現の追加
    ・小さな柵はこれで越えられてもOK(これが本筋ではないです)

    他のプレイヤーとの待ち合わせのときに場所を知らせるためにジャンプしたり、
    NPCの位置を指し示したり、感情表現的なジャンプは、細かく色々使えると思っています。
    が「皆が飛び跳ねて美観を損ねる」「FFらしくない」はちょっと意外な反応だったので、
    なるほど、と思って検討材料に加えています。
    「大地に縛られている感」を軽減したいというのが吉田の根幹にありますが、
    引き続きみなさんの議論を見せて頂きつつ、実装すべきかどうか検討を続けますね!

    MAPコリジョンの調整⇒

    ・見た目に降りられそうな段差の引っ掛かり
    ・登れそうに見えて登れない坂の違和感

    何人かの方にご指摘頂いていますが、「移動中のストレス緩和」というタスクは、
    既に「MAPコリジョンの調整」として開発内テスト中です。
    ですので、ジャンプの実装検討とは別に考えて頂けると助かります。

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    Is the producer/director Yoshida.


    Thank you for jumping a lively discussion.
    It gives birth to misleading State study on Indo-European eyes on, so once arranged.


    A study on jump ⇒


    -One of emotional expression
    -Added move-in movements
    Also, small fence is crossed in this OK (this main plot is not)


    When meeting up with other players know where to jump or
    NPC location to point to a piece the emotion expressive jump over various think I can use.
    Is "everyone is jumping up and down and detract from the aesthetic" "FF would not" is because it was kinda surprising reaction
    Indeed, in addition to the study material.
    Want to reduce your "feeling" tied to the Earth to the Yoshida basis there is a
    Continue to study whether the Government showed continue your discussion, while implementing it!


    Adjusting the collision MAP > >


    And they bump it and get down to the appearance of
    -登れ to provide visible breach of contract


    Has crowned you mention several people are "stress relaxation of the movement during the task
    There is already in testing during development as "adjusting MAP collisions".
    So, where guests can think independently from the implementation study on jump would be helpful.

    Now ofcorse our MODs are lazy and dont comment on anything here. So who's voice is most heard? Im thinking all the na sayers on our english forums im going to guess Yoshi and the rest are like well the english people hate it and will just never like anything so were going to listen to the main base witch is the japanese players. Sad yes , but do you blam them these forums have ben nothing but a bitch fest sence day 1. MOst things people are bitching about i also agree with. but there comes a point where maybe we should add solutions rather then just blasting the game 24/7
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    The Japanese section is kinda whiny too, broseidon. It's consumer nature.
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    People who wish to be taken seriously when discussing the atmosphere of a forum should use the word "bitch" less.
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    Yoshi-P stated that we would get a translation of his post soon. I really wouldnt try to take anything from a babelfish/google translate version of the post.

    However, it seems to talk about his team working to make current environments more diverse (specifically mentioned redesigning Black Shroud), implementing jump in a way that wont detract from the FF feel of the game/ take away lancer/dragoon's "thunder" from being able to jump.

    Apparently a decent amount of japanese players also want some sort of jump mechanic, automatic or otherwise, to navigate environments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trinta View Post
    People who wish to be taken seriously when discussing the atmosphere of a forum should use the word "bitch" less.
    Whats wrong with the word bitch? i mean any TV show/radio show/movie or everyday speak somewhere along the line someone will say bitch. If that word offends you sorry your so sheltered. But im very blunt and i call things as i see them no need to sugar coat what is going on here. Again no offence
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRain View Post
    Whats wrong with the word bitch? i mean any TV show/radio show/movie or everyday speak somewhere along the line someone will say bitch. If that word offends you sorry your so sheltered. But im very blunt and i call things as i see them no need to sugar coat what is going on here. Again no offence
    You look foolish discussing the lack of decorum with... a lack of decorum. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teknoman View Post
    Yoshi-P stated that we would get a translation of his post soon. I really wouldnt try to take anything from a babelfish/google translate version of the post.

    However, it seems to talk about his team working to make current environments more diverse (specifically mentioned redesigning Black Shroud), implementing jump in a way that wont detract from the FF feel of the game/ take away lancer/dragoon's "thunder" from being able to jump.

    Apparently a decent amount of japanese players also want some sort of jump mechanic, automatic or otherwise, to navigate environments.
    Thats what i got out of the reading also. if you goto the japanese fourms and highlight a section then bing or google (i use bing) transulate you get a basic idea what the convo is like in there. More or less its like the convo on the english forums only difference is there accualy thinking of adding solutions and giving opinions rather then just hateing on the game. and haveing flame wars over it
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    Love those Google translates, but an interesting read.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRain View Post
    Now ofcorse our MODs are lazy and dont comment on anything here. So who's voice is most heard? Im thinking all the na sayers on our english forums im going to guess Yoshi and the rest are like well the english people hate it and will just never like anything so were going to listen to the main base witch is the japanese players. Sad yes , but do you blam them these forums have ben nothing but a bitch fest sence day 1. MOst things people are bitching about i also agree with. but there comes a point where maybe we should add solutions rather then just blasting the game 24/7
    Don't confuse "lazy" with "busy".

    Also I wouldn't call these forums a "bitch fest" either. If you took the time to read some of the threads there are a lot of constructive comments being made. Sadly, due to the state of FFXIV at the moment most comments are usually bringing up negative points. Still, wouldn't class it as "bitching".
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    Quote Originally Posted by trinta View Post
    You look foolish discussing the lack of decorum with... a lack of decorum. That is all.
    Again i know you think its not in good taste or its not to be serious. Well in your opinion that is. But to think im daft then your fooling yourself. but please it dosent matter needless bickering (a.k.a bitching) over a word is well dumb
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    ya the jps hayed having that stupid rollanberry fence just as much as anyone. (my guess) or la theine platue (sp) fence. I like a jump for 1 fun thing to do. 2 easyer to get around the world or to quest objectives. If a 3 foot fence is keeping me from a quest completion or safe return to my how town. I would like to jump it. That and jumping fences is fun
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