memorial service for MCH

[Sen_Terrechant]

but but, you are not even play MCH yourself (or unlock it, when I check). Everything sound good in skill description & paper, but you gotta try it yourself

I dont need to have it unlocked to be able to see what its able to do in the hands of a good player, and can just look to my FC mates for that- and yes they pull very very good numbers for being a SUPPORT DPS (although, you have to work hard for them)

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Congrats, you're going to be an *** to your raid team just so you can feel good about yourself for being a "real" MCH.

Calm down and read a little before firing off. All that means is I'm not going to let everyone else's idea that "MCH can't raid!" dictate whether I try or not. Whether I succeed or fail is going to be purely of my own doing. NOT what others say.

[AxelDH]

The problem is that the current endgame fights don't really need the support that Machinists (and Bards!) can offer. So they're a little underappreciated at the moment.

But when it comes to raiding, there will no doubt be a requirement for TP/MP regen once more. And both MCH and BRD can forgo their turret stances and assume the roles of 'mechanic handlers' while still putting in decent DPS.

For machinists specifically, there may be mechanics/adds where heavy/bind/knockback/silence/stun are useful in dealing with. They also have the means to reduce enemy attack power by 5%, which could be a help when it comes to surviving tank busters or raid wide attacks at the lowest possible gear levels.

So, I think you should stick it out a bit longer and see what utility you can bring to the actual raids!

[LeonarRimon]

The problem is that the current endgame fights don't really need the support that Machinists (and Bards!) can offer. So they're a little underappreciated at the moment.

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So, I think you should stick it out a bit longer and see what utility you can bring to the actual raids!

I absolutely agree. For BisEX and RavEx Mp regen were def needed and TP regen is always good.

We have no idea how alexandar mechanics will be, but if we look on past experience from coils silence and bind were key cds for T7/T9 and some others.

Lol, main reason why I choose machinist was for the rend mind and dismantle, I remember how key monk's debuff was for us when progressing through T13. (Which we really had a hard time with when we initially had no monk)

[shanvhere]

Still playing it. Still gonna raid with it.

R.I.P. MCH pretenders.

I feel bad for your party then.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I feel bad for your party then.

I don't. But thanks for the concern.

Anyways, asking a friend to help me determine whether the rotation idea I had yesterday was viable (the proc stacking, 2-1-3-2-3 one, with ammo this time, no Gauss), I parsed a 632.16 over 2 min 7 sec (Apparently in the first 20 seconds I peaked at 800). This was roughly within a Hypercharged Rook cycle, and somewhat forgetting Hot Shot/Lead Shot a little. As I was told, that's not terrible, nor amazing (for a lv 60 anyways.) I'm still not fully accustomed to it yet, and naturally I too ran into some RNG dead zones, but I'm pretty well satisfied with that. I expected worse, but largely due to not knowing much about parsing/being parsed.

[Nightz_End]

Still playing it. Still gonna raid with it.

R.I.P. MCH pretenders.

THIS.

I'm not giving up on a class I enjoy.

[Griffeth]

THIS.

I'm not giving up on a class I enjoy.

Seconded! The class is fun to me, going to ride out the storm and if/when we get buffed I will know my class better than the FoTM wave that comes back.

[Ryaz]

Seconded! The class is fun to me, going to ride out the storm and if/when we get buffed I will know my class better than the FoTM wave that comes back.

I agree. I actually got a boost of confidence today when we tried (and failed) at Bismarck Ex and it actually wasn't my fault. I was solo dps on one snake for two phases and got him down 1/2 way while the others three couldn't even kill one. Of course, that could have just meant they were all sub-par dps, but I'm trying to look on the brighter side.

[Seunkii]

I think the WOW developers have infected FFXIV's. This is the kind of thing they'd do.