Disappointing sales. The Elder Scrolls Online outsells Heavensward.

[Hieral]

ESO is a base game. Heavensward is an expansion.

Enough said.

[Kaze3434]

I am not "spreading misinformation" I posted official retail sales data for this game in the UK region and provided a link.

How is that trolling?

because the links you provided only show one portion of sales. this is why people are calling you out. then there is the fact that you ignore the people who point out the flaws contained within your "disappointing sales" comment.

[Debacle]

My post wasn't a joke. A market as big as the UK is a ample sample size to see how the game is selling in other markets worldwide.

The only difference will be Japan as there game market is very different from the rest of the world.

A good example would be this. The X box one only sold 100 units last week in Japan yes you read that right ONLY 100 http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-reaches-a...ium=Socialflow

So you admit there's difference in geographical sale histories but don't get why posting UK only data isn't a good idea? Okay, sure.

[Kaedan]

I'd like to see GFK Chart-Tracks sources and methods. How do they track sales, how accurate are they, what's coverage, etc.

Regardless, thread is clearly clickbait. OP makes a broad-ranging general statement about sales based off a single, questionable website that only deals in UK sales.

For your information OP, I was at my local Tsutaya here in Japan, and Heavensward was number 1 on the sales charts. SE has nothing to worry about.

[Darkobra]

The Elder Scrolls has a strong fanbase behind it and some people were mistaken into thinking "It's Elder Scrolls with co-op" when it turned out to be YET ANOTHER MMO. (Shocker. I know. Hence why I sure as hell didn't buy it. Desecrating my games.)

What you really need to go by is active players. Because of keys banned from people buying third party, people who quit, people who managed to get refunds...

[WHS]

The saddest thing is ESO is everywhere I look and in every store. Whereas FFXIV before and with Heavensward was mostly special order. I live in US south of Chicago in a fairly decent populated city. Only one store was stocking retail shelves and only 2 others were doing pre orders. Bestbuy and Gamestop were the only two stocking and doing preorders. And BB didn't have any on shelf if you did not preorder. I really am not surprised. As much as I personally love FF franchise it is not a shared view among the masses. Don't get me wrong we all are here cause we love FF. But that is not the majority of MMO players I'm afraid to admit. Still I love my time here.

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

Can't believe that people still buy Destiny.

It's Bungie.

[Galaktica]

I feel like a lot of people are in denial here...

I love this game as much as the next guy, hence why I'm subbed to it and posting on the official forums, but the Elder Scrolls name carries a lot of weight these days. Arguably, just as much weight as Final Fantasy at least in the West anyway. Skyrim sold 20 million units. I think the entire XIII saga combined may have sold like 9-10 million. I might be off on those FFXIII numbers, but point is, there's nothing even remotely absurd about ESO outselling Heavensward in any region outside of Japan, especially since it doesn't have a sub fee anymore.

[MrSmiley]

I feel like a lot of people are in denial here...

I love this game as much as the next guy, hence why I'm subbed to it and posting on the official forums, but the Elder Scrolls name carries a lot of weight these days. Arguably, just as much weight as Final Fantasy at least in the West anyway. Skyrim sold 20 million units. I think the entire XIII saga combined may have sold like 9-10 million. I might be off on those FFXIII numbers, but point is, there's nothing even remotely absurd about ESO outselling Heavensward in any region outside of Japan, especially since it doesn't have a sub fee anymore.

I don't care what outsold what, I just seriously doubt heavensward had dissapointing sales.

[Gamer3427]

Skyrim sold 20 million units. I think the entire XIII saga combined may have sold like 9-10 million.

The difference with your numbers is in part the quality. If you're talking preorders and day one sales only, then saying "Skyrim sold more than XIII" is valid as to ES games selling more in general. BUT, if you're taking in to account sales numbers from months, or even weeks later, then that is why you see such a huge difference. Even with all the bugs at launch, Skyrim was considered to be a vastly superior game by the masses, (myself included), than the first XIII was. You'll fine very few fans who truly liked XIII, much less that rank it as one of their favorite FF games. Meanwhile Skyrim is considered by many fans to be the best in the series. Simple word of mouth is what would cause the differences in sales between these two games alone.....

Then with XIII's sequels you have to count in that people were so disappointed by XIII itself that the number of people who would buy XIII-2 dropped off entirely, with numbers dropping even further by XIII-3. You also have to account that people wouldn't be buying the XIII sequels just because they didn't play XIII all the way through, or at all, and as such wouldn't want to play the sequels due to not knowing the story......

I'm not arguing that ES games sell better in the US than FF games. I'm just saying that like the OP of this thread, you're not taking all factors into account, and are simply basing your argument off of a small sample of data. You also can't base over all sale numbers on one region alone. Saying "Disappointing Sales" purely based off of one game selling better in one region is complete foolishness. Not to mention the other factors that other posters in this thread have brought up such as the fact that this doesn't include digital sales, or that this is an expansion, (one gated by having to have completed the majority of the original game, no less), in comparison to a full fledged game. If you're going to judge sales as being "disappointing" then you have to take in sales world wide and across multiple platforms. The sample size for the information is far too small to jump to the conclusion the OP gave....