to Yoshi P. (Please read)

[weeble]

i thinks mmo's should take the idea blizzard has with diablo3, they will have a hardcore mode on each server where u can chose to do, those players have a seperate auction house then those who don't do hardcore mode. so in reality it is 2 different gameplay styles all on same server.

maybe mmo's can layer servers and still have full servers of players and still have different game styles in them rather then trying to create a mmo where half the content is for this group or that group cause i don't think this type will ever truly work out. this would keep all types playing together in whatever parts are similar and still keep the non similar things we enjoy in it. can have easy mode and hardcore mode coexisting without hurting each others gameplay.

[Arlekiel]

Games should not rely on time sinks to retain players. Each day it passes I am more convinced the worst enemy FFXIV has, second only to Square-enix himself, is FFXI players that are still stuck in an era of gaming that is no longer realistic or feasible.

This guy speaks the truth


Srsly... if u loved FFXI .. go and play it.


LEARN SOME MATH!

11 =/= 14

If u want to play 11, go and play 11....

Dont bring here ur silly argument about "grinding is fun".
I have fun when I experience a dynamic experience... and not when im spaming buttons... if u want to spam buttons then go and play something else.

[Bled]

i thinks mmo's should take the idea blizzard has with diablo3, they will have a hardcore mode on each server where u can chose to do, those players have a seperate auction house then those who don't do hardcore mode. so in reality it is 2 different gameplay styles all on same server.

maybe mmo's can layer servers and still have full servers of players and still have different game styles in them rather then trying to create a mmo where half the content is for this group or that group cause i don't think this type will ever truly work out. this would keep all types playing together in whatever parts are similar and still keep the non similar things we enjoy in it. can have easy mode and hardcore mode coexisting without hurting each others gameplay.

I for the most part agree, like i said i do not agree with SE's marketing move, you can not please all of the people all of the time. There is a reason why gaming companies for years now, target demographics rather then making "Harvest Halo Final Fantasy Baseball"; You target a demographic and play to your strengths.

[Zenaku]

Go play FFXI, this isn't FFXI 2. I loved FFXI, but you can't expect the same game.

Who playing FFXIV? FFXI players so yes we expect the same thing but 100x better and new and even new stuff for ffxiv. At the end wow player would go back to wow and ffxi players would play ffxi or join ffxiv.

[weeble]

This guy speaks the truth


Srsly... if u loved FFXI .. go and play it.

LEARN SOME MATH!

11 =/= 14

If u want to play 11, go and play 11....

Dont bring here ur silly argument about "grinding is fun".
I have fun when I experience a dynamic experience... and not when im spaming buttons... if u want to spam buttons then go and play something else.

lets face it every game gets clones, why not ffxi. also as a million people stated ffxi is no longer ffxi either. take shooters for instance ...what the real difference in each shooter game, not alot. ..they are shooters. while mmo's can be all somewhat different they still kinda the same, so why do they need to all be the same easy mode. there isn't really a medium to playing on extreme hardcore mode or easiest mode in the game. they can't really mix it without halfing the games content for everyone. though casual shouldn't care they don't have the time to do it all apparently ...and they don't want to play a game for years?

[darkstarpoet1]

lets face it every game gets clones, why not ffxi. also as a million people stated ffxi is no longer ffxi either. take shooters for instance ...what the real difference in each shooter game, not alot. ..they are shooters. while mmo's can be all somewhat different they still kinda the same, so why do they need to all be the same easy mode. there isn't really a medium to playing on extreme hardcore mode or easiest mode in the game. they can't really mix it without halfing the games content for everyone. though casual shouldn't care they don't have the time to do it all apparently ...and they don't want to play a game for years?

xi may get a clone and be called xi-2, but this game is not xi nor is it xi-2.

[Seif]

While it's absurd to want the exact same game(which I don't think anyone is suggesting), it's pretty reasonable for people to want a similar experience.

FF XI was not the only FF game with optional and compulsory grinding in it.

Every single FF game has grinding in it as a massive part of the experience. Sometimes people think that all FF-esque game mechanics were invented in XI and that makes it the embodiment of evil.

People have bought over 100 million copies of the FF games all of which have grinding and questing as a very key components of the main experience.


I'm sure when people ask for "XI-like" features they're more FF-like features than anything else. XI is after all heavily based on the design of Komoto's FF III.

[weeble]

xi may get a clone and be called xi-2, but this game is not xi nor is it xi-2.

but it isn't wow as well, and it shoudn't be a game that is so easy you can call it a cash shop game, cause your 16bucks is paying for the gear and weapons. it's so easy ..your monthly bill is what keeps it easy and hands you your drops. it's almost not a mmo then. it's gear fashion fantasy for 16bucks for casuals.

[Bled]

FF XI was not the only FF game with optional and compulsory grinding in it.

Every single FF game has grinding in it as a massive part of the experience. Sometimes people think that all FF-esque game mechanics were invented in XI and that makes it the embodiment of evil.

People have bought over 100 million copies of the FF games all of which have grinding and questing as a very key components of the main experience.


I'm sure when people ask for "XI-like" features they're more FF-like features than anything else. XI is after all heavily based on the design of Komoto's FF III.

Yeah, next people will be saying Disgaea games are horrible because of their grind... its not only intended but traditional to the series. It has just become popular to think grinding is out and instant lvl 100 fully equipped is the next gen.

[elreed]

Agree, we need hard content, things to focus for more than 3 months, i hate WoW cycle i played for 2 years, once you got some endgame gear it was obsolete so no glory in there, and especially please dont bring back the badge farming for gear, that killed a lot of fun of WoW, i know there are several people who played it, correct me if im wrong that after WotLK it went to hell.

So yeah im up for really bad ass hardcore content, bring it on XD