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    Raiker's Avatar
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    Dagger Amethyst
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by odioillatino View Post
    This is for all the people complaining about the BRD's Minuet. I have played with BRD using Minuet, and I can assure you that the DPS is really high. Maybe the people that is complaining should learn to play
    Your bard is only level 50. Trolls be trollin'!
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    Player Bhuni's Avatar
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    Hugo Fact
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiker View Post
    Your bard is only level 50. Trolls be trollin'!
    I'm pretty sure OP meant he played WITH a bard not AS.
    Perhaps you should read carefully before hitting that T button.
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    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Empyreal Fate
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bhuni View Post
    I'm pretty sure OP meant he played WITH a bard not AS.
    Perhaps you should read carefully before hitting that T button.
    Even more reason why OP shouldn't even be starting flamebait threads like this if he/she ain't main-ing or even playing a BRD.
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    Player Bhuni's Avatar
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by FateAudax View Post
    Even more reason why OP shouldn't even be starting flamebait threads like this if he/she ain't main-ing or even playing a BRD.
    Such terrible logic, as there's no such thing as parsers am I right?
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiker View Post
    Your bard is only level 50. Trolls be trollin'!
    OP,
    Obviously with the sheer amount of bards taking to the forums to discuss this in not just NA, but other regions as well, we have a valid complaint as Bards, and I think we deserve to be heard on the issue just like any other class that felt they deserved to have their concerns heard.
    If you don't play bard then I implore you to disregard our griping but please let us be so we can get some acknowledgement from SE on the issue.
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    Kojima Sama
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    OP,
    Obviously with the sheer amount of bards taking to the forums to discuss this in not just NA, but other regions as well, we have a valid complaint as Bards, and I think we deserve to be heard on the issue just like any other class that felt they deserved to have their concerns heard.
    If you don't play bard then I implore you to disregard our griping but please let us be so we can get some acknowledgement from SE on the issue.
    Did you literally just say that your complaint is valid because a lot of people share it? Come on you can do better than that
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    Quote Originally Posted by nekuxdesu View Post
    Did you literally just say that your complaint is valid because a lot of people share it? Come on you can do better than that
    I have posted my VALID points in another thread and I care not to repeat myself. The fact that I echo the statements of other bards is relevant because it shows that not just one or two bards have an issue with WM, but the community of Bards as a collective and thereby it serves as merit to our concerns.

    If you care to read the VALID points of myself and other bards you may find them in the "Buff Bards or Riot" thread.
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Teladi Bishop
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by nekuxdesu View Post
    Did you literally just say that your complaint is valid because a lot of people share it? Come on you can do better than that
    We don't really have to do better? No one has a right to tell a person what is fun to them. If bards was doing amazing dps that groups would notice that is one thing, but if it takes some super expert player to get the most out of bard. That is bad game design in itself. If most players have to "l2p" a class and stay super focus just to try to come close to other dps. It is flawed design.

    Truth is, the class lost a lot and gained very little.
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    f it takes some super expert player to get the most out of bard. That is bad game design in itself. If most players have to "l2p" a class and stay super focus just to try to come close to other dps. It is flawed design.
    Wait wait wait
    Let me laugh


    Okay I'm back
    no wait give me another moment

    So you're saying that if i play infinitely better than someone else, I shouldn't do more dps? Rewarding skill is now "flawed design"?
    Are sports flawed because someone practices and is VASTLY better than someone new to them?
    Is cooking flawed because someone who has been doing it for dozens of years is better at it than a baby?

    Come on man, all of your brd babbies cant be this silly...right?
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    Eien Lightspark
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by nekuxdesu View Post
    Wait wait wait
    Let me laugh


    Okay I'm back
    no wait give me another moment

    So you're saying that if i play infinitely better than someone else, I shouldn't do more dps? Rewarding skill is now "flawed design"?
    Are sports flawed because someone practices and is VASTLY better than someone new to them?
    Is cooking flawed because someone who has been doing it for dozens of years is better at it than a baby?

    Come on man, all of your brd babbies cant be this silly...right?


    That is clearly an headshot.
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