Let's talk about Dissipation

[Gallus]

Extra Energy Drain stacks for damage on hunts

lol? You have time to cast 9 energy drains on hunts? I don't even have time to cast 3 sometimes.

[pandabearcat]

Assuming no pet cooldowns active it will be a significant healing increase for AoE healing. Single target...will suffer unless you blow all 3 AF on lustrate.

[Vrankyl]

My biggest problem with it when I tried it I noticed that the healing buff only affect Physick, Adlo, and Succor, it does not increase healing done by Lust or Indom. If they would fix that I could see using it, but as of right now I already conserve my aether stacks to the point I am normally just using them on energy drain for a lot of the fights so far.

[zuzu-bq]

Yet another Dissipation discussion. The ability is not terrible, but it's not good either. I just find pretty "meh" and I use it sometimes.

My biggest problem with it when I tried it I noticed that the healing buff only affect Physick, Adlo, and Succor, it does not increase healing done by Lust or Indom.

Yes, thats the only issue with Dissipation in my opinion. Why have new aetherflow stacks by the cost of killing my fairy if they won't heal more just like my spells?

I hope we can see more use of it as Alexander approaches. I think the main discussion about Dissipation is because it feels weak for a lv60 ability. While the lv52 one (Indomitability) looks one of the strongest skills of our new arsenal. Its also funny to see that the duration on PvP is longer than PvE. I think we're complaining a bit too much, just look at BRD's Warden's Paean and AST's poor Sacred Soil.

[GideonHighmourn]

I only use it while solo'ing now, for Energy Drain DPS.

[Kitsu]

Since Aetherflow healing abilities don't even work with Dissipation, there's really no point in the spell other than those very very specific fights where there is going to be a ton of AoE damage taken in 20 seconds, and we sit there spamming Succor because the tank is not in immediate danger of dying.

I mean, you're pretty much using the Energy Drain mana received to resummon your faerie. I mean, it might be momentarily useful for AoE. Why can't we just get Divine Seal and call it a day? Our faerie is our best friend. This doesn't make sense even in the lore.

[Cynfael]

We've talked about Dissipation.

There are very few strategically sound uses for it, and the good scenarios we've been able to cook up are either so situational or require so much prep that they still aren't worth the hassle. Having to resummon your fairy afterwards makes this ability even more unattractive.

It's a horrible panic button, as well. If you are already in panic mode, chances are that you've blown your Indom by this point, so the only thing "moar stacks" lets you do is spam more Lustrate (which you are now more likely to need since your fairy isn't there to help top off party members from arena-wide and accidental damage, stretching your GCDs thinner). SCHs still aren't WHMs with set-it-and-forget-it regenerative effects and spammable burst AoE healing that helps them maximize their healing-per-GCD, albeit at great MP cost. Then, assuming everyone is recovered from panic mode, it's time to pull your fairy back (assuming that you still have a SC available and enough MP after your healing panic attack).

In normal gameplay, however, there is no need to even think about casting Dissipation. Why rock the boat when things are going smoothly as-is?

TL;DR: The ability is mostly crap.

[Tumgar]

I'm not sure what more you people want out of this class. We have by far the best kit as scholor (and really it isn't even close) and that was pre-Heavensward. Post-Heavensward our kit just got way better than it even was before (which blows me away because it was already too good to begin with) but they completely patched up any advantages a WHM had over us which was AoE healing capacity.

Now you guys are complaining about dissipation being a useless ability when it has very applicable uses in certain scenarios. Why do we need every single ability to be 100% amazing in every scenario? Wasn't indomidability/emergency tactics/depolyment tactics/broil good enough for everyone?

Lets recap on what we currently have as scholors:

-Best damage mitigation
-Best single target healing
-Best recovery tools (lustrate - way better than benediction)
-As of the expansion we now have AoE healing that is way closer to WHM than it used to be
-Way more tools at our disposal for different situation (much moreso now with emergency tactics, indomoitability, depolyment tactics)

If anything we need a nerf to some of our abilities to be more in line with WHM and AST (however have never played AST so not positive of their capabilities). I could rant on about people complaining about the lustrate "nerf" also. Stance dance better - it makes a world of difference.


And that's the end of the rant. Let's try not to turn this class into a i-win button moreso than it already is.

Thanks

[Cynfael]

Snip.

It's less about trying to make SCH even better than it is about trying not to have our capstone ability be virtually useless. I'm sure they can think of something to do with Dissipation that isn't grossly imbalanced, yet is more useful or even just more "fun" than the ability is right now.

[Tumgar]

I disagree that it is virtually useless. I use dissipation way more than I ever used an ability like benediction when I played WHM. It is situation but far from useless or virtually useless. People just haven't played with it enough to realize its capabilities or you get the people that say they are taking it off their horbar and dont even give it a chance.