Master Recipe Gear OBSOLETE for RAIDS

[SarcasmMisser]

A few tank accessories suddenly make crafting worthwhile? xD

What about the other classes? xD

For Alexander progression MT's will likely be wanting full Vit higher ilvl accessories anyway.

You asked about materia not crafting, level 5s generally have double the amount of stat points of level 4 and any higher crafted gear will require it to reach the new caps. Considering I tripled vit 4 prices when I made my set it doesn't take many pentamelders to put strong demand on the market, the only reason why I didn't use level 5 was that it wasn't cost effective.

And I'm a MT, full vit has it's use during the few weeks of progression. The norm is melded due to the massive gains vs the cost.

[scarebearz]

You asked about materia not crafting

Actually I pretty much said whats the point of materia if the crafted gears you can use them in are mostly junk. xD

You can't even enter Alexander in a full crafted set.

[SarcasmMisser]

Are you saying I didn't enter alexander last night with my i150 crafted accessory set? It's fine if you want to ignore this is a thing you have nothing to lose but money.

[Aeyis]

Well. You have nothing to lose but your money. Unfortunately on my server the tanks are smarter then to waste gil on a stat boost that isnt really there.

And as the above poster said: each piece of crafted equipment requires you to have another +20 ilvls (above 170) elsewhere on you equiped.
A full set of crafted items (or all accessories for that matter) would mean you couldnt even enter the place.

[SarcasmMisser]

You're on Zodiark so I'm not surprised it's full of unimpressive tanks who don't see the value of crafted accessories.

A full set of crafted items (or all accessories for that matter) would mean you couldnt even enter the place.

Next time when you don't know what you're talking about you should just not post.

[Aeyis]

You're on Zodiark so I'm not surprised it's full of unimpressive tanks who don't see the value of crafted accessories.





Next time when you don't know what you're talking about you should just not post.

Ironic. Care to show us what you are actually wearing? Because if those blue items were full 180 (+190 ravana weapon), you would have + 70 (+20) = + 90 ilevels above 170, whereas 5x 150 accessories would give you 5x -20 for a total of -100 ilevels.

In other words, if you are wearing full law+ ravana weapons + accessories (which is the best available before alexander), you would have less then 170 average.


Oops.

Your move.

Next time when you don't know what you're talking about you should just not post.

This is assuming you dont get a free Ravana shield to offset your weapon, in which case note that drk and war dont get this benefit.

You're on Zodiark so I'm not surprised it's full of unimpressive tanks who don't see the value of crafted accessories.

No need to get insulting. Unlike some, us crafters actually did the stats math on the accesorries. ^_^
30 ilvls of lower stats is definately worth it!



Frankly speaking to improve on my previous post: it seems a lot of tanks are stuck in the mindset that crafted accesories are good to have, but they neglected to do the proper math and realise that crafted items have been hit with a nerf bat in HW...


But by all means, if people actually buy them, more gil to us. Selling rings for 50 times their material cost ftw.


Nice snip about Zodiark btw. Ironically it was a tank on Zodiark suggesting that the rings would be good to have, wich made me look into its viability. (which is lacking, I find)

[Donjo]

Ironic. Care to show us what you are actually wearing? Because if those blue items were full 180 (+190 ravana weapon), you would have + 70 (+20) = + 90 ilevels above 170, whereas 5x 150 accessories would give you 5x -20 for a total of -100 ilevels.

In other words, if you are wearing full law+ ravana weapons + accessories (which is the best available before alexander), you would have less then 170 average.

Actually... the math does add up here. We have 190x2, 180x6, and 150x5 for a total of 2210 item levels. Divide this by 13 equipment slots and we have an average item level of... exactly 170.

This is assuming you dont get a free Ravana shield to offset your weapon, in which case note that drk and war dont give this benefit.

DRK and WAR do get this benefit. Two Handed Weapons are counted twice in average item level calculations.

No need to get insulting. Unlike some, us crafters actually did the stats math on the accesorries. ^_^
30 ilvls of lower stats is definately worth it!

For non Tanking classes, I can certainly believe that the accessories will never win. For Tanks, however, can load up on accessories that have 29 VIT and 31 STR on each one... along with regularly allotted secondaries for an accessory of that level! This is a total of 60 main stat points for each accessory, whereas our current numbers for accessories with a single main stat on them is 40. These i150 accessories will beat anything a Tank can wear on the right side until we reach item level 240+. If we do get i170 accessories when Savage drops(word is that we'll get some i170 craftables) then they will completely smash everything because they would be able to hold Grade V materia.

[lordoftheapes79]

Sooo how silly will you all feel when red scrips and I170 crafts come out in 2 weeks. There really isn't a point to this argument right now.

[SarcasmMisser]

I mean all that crying above ignored that I wasn't really talking about it being worth it from a buyer pov but a seller, this is the crafting forum. I've sold accessories to plenty of tanks who know how to play the game, it was a good chunk of change and if you want to ignore that because you can't even work out how ilevel works then it's your loss.

Anyone who has an opinion worth anything knows that average ilevel is totally worthless in this game in terms of actual gear score. You look at stats not ilevel. With crafted = 828STR 844VIT. Without = 689STR 872VIT (full STR spec). You gain a massive 139 STR and lose only 28 VIT, if no one on your backwater server thinks this is a good idea then move servers to where people know how to actually play the game. That 1000HP is not missed on anything in this game considering there is nothing right now that's actually challenging.

[AnimaS]

Current accessories are too low in ILVL to bother melding, make 170 and use the tier V materia, yea it'll be worth it; right now my warrior merely wears to strength accessories until something BETTER is released because them 150 accessories simply cannot hold any secondaries you want to any degree yet. You have 5 of em your secondaries are just a mess. I know damn well I will not settle for my 3.0 WAR with sub par CRIT and risk missing accuracy caps by melding all Strength IV materia onto each item.