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    The problem I see with this debate is that all the content we had so far should be have present from the start.

    It'd be useless to have hardcore content when battle algorythms are changing, classes are unbalanced, materia will be unbalanced at start and jobs aren't out yet.

    Just think of your char and your progression as a bonus. You get the advantage of being one step ahead and having access to everything, but you lost progression, difficulty and achievement feelings since all these "landmarks" weren't there on your road to 50.
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    I was wrong.

    Getting a chocobo at rank 20 will in fact be tough.

    They will have to do a few company quests and maybe a few caravans.

    Should prolly nerf that before it comes out. We wouldn't want anyone to have to break a sweat.

    Maybe they could rent one until they can get their own personal with marks?

    Nah what was I thinking.

    You win.
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    Actually, the winner here is you, not me. I don't win by pointing out facts; you win by acknowledging them in a gracious manner.

    I salute you, sir; your attitude is superior to that of about 95% of posters here.

    Regarding the 'too easy' part, I'll repeat a question I asked earlier to others: have you made a habit of killing the r80+ mobs we see running around? The r90+ ones? It's not like there isn't challenges out there to be had...

    On edit: Wait a minute! You went back and edited your post to be snarky. That I don't respect.

    You're also still wrong on the basic facts; you won't be able to get a chocobo at r20 without doing a ton of the repeatable quests, because you can't do toto-rak until 25. And if you're a new player who didn't get the 1k bonus for Foundation day, you'll REALLY need to do a lot of them to get 3k marks.

    Seriously, think before you post.
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    Last edited by Cycloptichorn; 09-24-2011 at 01:58 AM. Reason: Wait a tick!

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    Syntax Lies
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    I was wrong.

    Getting a chocobo at rank 20 will in fact be tough.

    They will have to do a few company quests and maybe a few caravans.

    Should prolly nerf that before it comes out. We wouldn't want anyone to have to break a sweat.

    Maybe they could rent one until they can get their own personal with marks?

    Nah what was I thinking.

    You win.
    i dont think the rank 25 caravan is gonna give many seals, i think most player will have to at least complete the lvl 25 dungeon to get enough seals which to me is a good enough challenge for a mount.
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    Last edited by syntaxlies; 09-24-2011 at 04:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    Should prolly nerf that before it comes out. We wouldn't want anyone to have to break a sweat.

    Maybe they could rent one until they can get their own personal with marks?

    Nah what was I thinking.
    Breaking a sweat ruins my immersion, can I has nerf now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    I was wrong.

    Getting a chocobo at rank 20 will in fact be tough.

    They will have to do a few company quests and maybe a few caravans.

    Should prolly nerf that before it comes out. We wouldn't want anyone to have to break a sweat.

    Maybe they could rent one until they can get their own personal with marks?

    Nah what was I thinking.

    You win.
    I'm not aware of anyone saying it should be made easier. Why does gaining access to a new feature come down to a choice between making it difficult for someone with a mountain of rank 50 classes to obtain or nothing?
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    (original by GalvatronZero)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    I'm not aware of anyone saying it should be made easier. Why does gaining access to a new feature come down to a choice between making it difficult for someone with a mountain of rank 50 classes to obtain or nothing?
    My mountain of rank 50s has NOTHING to do with having difficult content in this MMO or not.

    Right now, there is no challenge for even the casuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    My mountain of rank 50s has NOTHING to do with having difficult content in this MMO or not.

    Right now, there is no challenge for even the casuals.
    Yaknow, after reading your earlier exchange with me, I decided to go back and read a lot of your old posts. And I've come to the conclusion that you're mostly just a troll who likes to complain a lot.

    If you don't like the game, quit. But please stop with the constant bitching about how nothing is challenging at all, because A) it's simply not the truth (you're not downing Headrip Ogres without a challenge) and B) it sort of makes you look like a braggart and a jerk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    Yaknow, after reading your earlier exchange with me, I decided to go back and read a lot of your old posts. And I've come to the conclusion that you're mostly just a troll who likes to complain a lot.

    If you don't like the game, quit. But please stop with the constant bitching about how nothing is challenging at all, because A) it's simply not the truth (you're not downing Headrip Ogres without a challenge) and B) it sort of makes you look like a braggart and a jerk.
    Agreed...

    Im sure most people , especially the casuals would disagree with you Mr. Mog. Don't try to even pretend you understand what a casual player finds challenging because you are so far beyond their level you can't begin to understand that lowbie lifestyle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    Yaknow, after reading your earlier exchange with me, I decided to go back and read a lot of your old posts. And I've come to the conclusion that you're mostly just a troll who likes to complain a lot.

    If you don't like the game, quit. But please stop with the constant bitching about how nothing is challenging at all, because A) it's simply not the truth (you're not downing Headrip Ogres without a challenge) and B) it sort of makes you look like a braggart and a jerk.

    I support what I believe in, and I speak my mind on things I disagree with as well as the things I agree with.

    You do the same thing, everyone does. Basic human rights.

    Don't get on my ass about my opinion. Everyone's opinion is equal and we all have a right to share it.

    Yours is no better than mine. Get over yourself.
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    Last edited by DoctorMog; 09-24-2011 at 04:21 AM.

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