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    ErzaScarlet77's Avatar
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    does PLD feel like a holy class yet?

    always bothered me when ARR pld only has maybe flash and circle of scorn that has some kind of holy look
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    The PLD in Final Fantasy was never really holy. You are thinking about D&D (and what spawned from it) here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphras View Post
    The PLD in Final Fantasy was never really holy. You are thinking about D&D (and what spawned from it) here.
    They were in the 3 FFT games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humorless View Post
    They were in the 3 FFT games.
    In FFXIV paladins are just elite guards of the Sultana if I'm remembering right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphras View Post
    The PLD in Final Fantasy was never really holy. You are thinking about D&D (and what spawned from it) here.
    Knight FF1 : Had low level White Magic. (Up to level 3 white magic)
    Knight FF3 : In the remake for the DS they were capable of casting low level White Magic. (Up to Lvl 1 white magic)
    Cecil Harvey as a Paladin FF4 : Cecil was able to cast low level White Magic such as Cure, Cura, Esuna, Pro/Shell, Raise, etc.
    Paladin FFTA : Had abilities such as Saint Cross and Holy Blade.
    Paladin FFTA2 : Similar to the FFTA with Saint Cross and Holy Blade, also recevied Sanctify.
    Paladin FFXI : Many White Magic spells, Undead Killer Trait, etc.

    Paladin Summary
    Throughout the series Paladins and Knights have also been able to equip Holy Swords and Armor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavensSword View Post
    Knight FF1 : Had low level White Magic. (Up to level 3 white magic)
    Knight FF3 : In the remake for the DS they were capable of casting low level White Magic. (Up to Lvl 1 white magic)
    Cecil Harvey as a Paladin FF4 : Cecil was able to cast low level White Magic such as Cure, Cura, Esuna, Pro/Shell, Raise, etc.
    Paladin FFTA : Had abilities such as Saint Cross and Holy Blade.
    Paladin FFTA2 : Similar to the FFTA with Saint Cross and Holy Blade, also recevied Sanctify.
    Paladin FFXI : Many White Magic spells, Undead Killer Trait, etc.

    Paladin Summary
    Throughout the series Paladins and Knights have also been able to equip Holy Swords and Armor.
    White Magic has nothing to do with "holyness" (else the PLD in FF14 would be "holy" too). That is just your interpretation. Like Khaoticsuccubus said, Paladin is just a Knight.


    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    Give PLD holy...then we'll have everything....except poster boy. Maybe in the 3rd expansion when people realize pld is bad ass as is.
    That would be the literal solution ^^.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 06-30-2015 at 06:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphras View Post
    That would be the literal solution ^^.
    It would....sightly less damage than warrior or drk. But crazy high raid utility. A new heal that can target anyone and if we heal someone else we get 50% back. All we're missing is a good aoe. Pop in holy, problem fixed and solved. Just gotta find a good way to keep up mp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphras View Post
    White Magic has nothing to do with "holyness" (else the PLD in FF14 would be "holy" too). That is just your interpretation. Like Khaoticsuccubus said, Paladin is just a Knight.
    Ignore the white magic if you want then, it doesn't change the fact that your statement "The PLD in Final Fantasy was never really holy." is just wrong. There are incarnations of the job in the Final Fantasy series that are indeed associated with being Holy; you just just choose to ignore the other examples for reasons.

    I'm not here to defend the OP's claim of 14's PLD not being Holy enough, but rather if you want to make a statement, at least know what you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavensSword View Post
    Ignore the white magic if you want then, it doesn't change the fact that your statement "The PLD in Final Fantasy was never really holy." is just wrong. There are incarnations of the job in the Final Fantasy series that are indeed associated with being Holy; you just just choose to ignore the other examples for reasons.

    I'm not here to defend the OP's claim of 14's PLD not being Holy enough, but rather if you want to make a statement, at least know what you are talking about.
    So which other statements? About every Final Fantasy has some kind "holy" weapon that can be equipped by some character (is the Dragoon holy because he can equip a holy lance in some games?), some even have it as a simple elemental status iirc. I doubt that is what the OP wants when he asks about the PLD being more holy.

    I don't know about the FF:T spinoffs, never really played one, but from a quick read it seems to be the same there.

    If you want some kind of holy knight that throws around holy light and is really close with his deity, that is just not the Final Fantasy depiction of a Paladin.

    Edit:
    This is what a Paladin is in this game:
    For centuries, the elite of the Sultansworn have served as personal bodyguards to the royal family of Ul'dah. Known as paladins, these men and women marry exquisite swordplay with stalwart shieldwork to create a style of combat uncompromising in its defense. Clad in brilliant silver armor, they charge fearlessly into battle, ever ready to lay down their lives for their liege.
    To be a paladin is to protect, and those who choose to walk this path will become the iron foundation upon which the party's defense is built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavensSword View Post
    I'm not here to defend the OP's claim of 14's PLD not being Holy enough, but rather if you want to make a statement, at least know what you are talking about.
    I am sorry, I almost missed the insult. I played about every Final Fantasy from the main series up to 12. Most of them when they were new. I think I am qualified to make that statement.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 06-30-2015 at 05:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    always bothered me when ARR pld only has maybe flash and circle of scorn that has some kind of holy look
    If I remember right, in the Japanese version Paladin isn't called Paladin. It's just called Knight.
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