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    Cleric Stance bugged or just the character sheet not working as before?

    Not sure if I'm just losing my mind here, so decided to post on forums for affirmation and / or be told I'm an idiot.

    Cleric stance is supposed to swap INT and MND while also increasing attack magic potency by 10% and reducing healing magic potency by 20%. As the skill is right now it appears to only be swapping the INT and MND, not applying the attack magic potency increase or healing magic potency decrease. I'm not sure if this is related to the character sheet as I know for whatever reason things like presence of mind do not show on it anymore despite previously doing so (spell speed number remains unchanged even though GCD gets lowered)

    Would be awesome to hear from other healers on this.
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    I could be mistaken but I believe modifiers like that aren't shown on the stat window and just applied as a bonus at the end of the calculation. I'm pretty certain if you used Divine Seal it also would not show the "Healing Magic Potency" rising the amount specified.

    In terms of Presence of Mind, I think that's a typo and it's suppose to say "reduce your casting time by 20%".
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    Heavensward did a lot of heavy surgery on things like stats and potencies and there have been a number on confirmed bugs already (healing buffs not affecting lustrate, asylum, etc for example). So it's possible.

    But one thing to remember: just because it isn't showing on the sheet doesn't mean it isn't being applied. To confirm if it is or isn't, we need data...
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    Presence of Mind and the fairy buffs used to show on the character sheet and they were both stat modifiers. Divine seal isn't a healing magic potency modifier, but a spell based healing modifier (which is why it doesn't work on asylum and assize) so it might have a special case? I'm just extremely lost because I could have sworn this used to show on the character sheet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karterfreak View Post
    Presence of Mind and the fairy buffs used to show on the character sheet and they were both stat modifiers. Divine seal isn't a healing magic potency modifier, but a spell based healing modifier (which is why it doesn't work on asylum and assize) so it might have a special case? I'm just extremely lost because I could have sworn this used to show on the character sheet.
    Yes, because both used to directly affect your Spell / Skill Speed with their buffs. Presence of Mind and Fey Wind no longer do that. Even though Presence of Mind states "increases spell speed by 20%" I believe what they meant to say was "reduce casting time by 20%" as using PoM removes 0.5seconds (20%) off my normal 2.5 GCD spells. I'm pretty certain 20% Spell Speed isn't that potent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karterfreak View Post
    Presence of Mind and the fairy buffs used to show on the character sheet and they were both stat modifiers. Divine seal isn't a healing magic potency modifier, but a spell based healing modifier (which is why it doesn't work on asylum and assize) so it might have a special case? I'm just extremely lost because I could have sworn this used to show on the character sheet.
    I never checked the effect of CS on my sheet so I can't say. We can see if any theorycrafters collect data on it but alternatively, you could try submitting a bug report and seeing if it gets moved to the 'accepted bugs' section on the forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Yes, because both used to directly affect your Spell / Skill Speed with their buffs. Presence of Mind and Fey Wind no longer do that. Even though Presence of Mind states "increases spell speed by 20%" I believe what they meant to say was "reduce casting time by 20%" as using PoM removes 0.5seconds (20%) off my normal 2.5 GCD spells. I'm pretty certain 20% Spell Speed isn't that potent.
    That makes a bit more sense and explains PoM / fairy buffs not showing on character sheet anymore. Really hoping the same is applied to Cleric Stance's damage increase / healing reduction... just wish it was easier to confirm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Fey Wind has no effect on spell or skill speed stats. There is no place on the character sheet to display it.
    I believe Tasha was referring to the pre-3.0 Fairy buffs where it was the SpS and SkS buffs instead of what it is now, not what Selene can do now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    I believe Tasha was referring to the pre-3.0 Fairy buffs where it was the SpS and SkS buffs instead of what it is now, not what Selene can do now.
    I deleted that post because I realized I'd misread it :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    I deleted that post because I realized I'd misread it :P
    Then I shall delete mine too! *Poofs*

    Nah, I didn't xD But I think I just respond to things too fast sometimes =p
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