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Thread: DRK DPS?

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    Drtoxicmedica's Avatar
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    Tatsu Masumi
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    From my experience having played all 3 at 50 dark just bleeds tp in dps stance. Did t12 and was starved just after Bennu phase. Even on pally I wouldn't run out. I wish blood weapon was just a flat damage increase instead of faster attacks. While MT I feel like a paladin as far as tp is concerned. While ot? Might as well be an obese ninja.
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    Both MTing and OTing, DRK will starve on TP quicker than the other 2 tanks.

    While MTing, there's no equivalent to Shield Swipe to use a GCD with lesser TP cost than you passively regenerate in combat.

    As a DPS, Blood Weapon's haste buff just turns you into a TP draining machine.
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    Well, it's official, the Dark Arts dupe is gone. Our DPS just ended up taking a fairly sizeable hit because of it, and Dark Passenger is now a complete trap skill. The case used to be that you could eke out a bit of extra damage from Dark Passenger with good MP management before, but now Dark Passenger has no business being used in any capacity.

    On the plus side, we no longer have to time our CaS/DPs for optimal damage, so DPSing became a little easier, since we might as well just fire them off whenever they come up, even if it did get worse overall.

    With this gone, I'd like to see how DRK parses compared to the other tanks now.
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    I just love how fast they were on Drk about this. While Warrior's are just crushing 5500-7k Fell Cleaves, SE doesn't see this as a issue. But Drk combining CnS / Souleater (60 sec window mind you) was so game breaking it needed fixed.

    Honestly wouldn't be worth saving DA for CnS.. might as well take the extra mana for another Souleater combo.
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    No, it's still worth it for Carve and Spit It's an extra 350 potency from C&S compared to an extra 140 for Soul Eater. That said, I really did enjoy timing everything for a nice, satisfying, big flurry of sword swings that would melt health bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiteless View Post
    No, it's still worth it for Carve and Spit It's an extra 350 potency from C&S compared to an extra 140 for Soul Eater. That said, I really did enjoy timing everything for a nice, satisfying, big flurry of sword swings that would melt health bars.
    This.

    Sure it was nice actually being able to use Dark Passenger, and sure, it was nice saving that extra DA MP every 60 secs for CAS, but that satisfaction of hitting buffed SE, CAS, + whatever oGCD you had after and watching the 3k, 2k, 1k, crit flurry that follows... I will miss that.

    ... until I finish WAR and temporarily retire DRK pending the next balance patch. I'll get my satisfaction from Fell Cleave, thank you.
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    Zorthos Dominatus
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    So.... How much dps did we lose? I never did this tactic of dps before so I don't feel the impact like you all. Sounded like it was fun though.
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    Echo Sindria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorthos View Post
    So.... How much dps did we lose? I never did this tactic of dps before so I don't feel the impact like you all. Sounded like it was fun though.
    To your average Drk, probably wont notice much of a difference.

    But to those who knew how to chain Dark Arts really well together with multiple skills, it's going to be a noticeable loss.

    The only way to keep up with the way it use to be now, is to DA a C&S right off the bat, after Hard Slash, and then DA'ing the upcoming souleater.

    But that comes at 2 costs: clipping your GCD, and using half of your MP in a single rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalma51 View Post
    I just love how fast they were on Drk about this. While Warrior's are just crushing 5500-7k Fell Cleaves, SE doesn't see this as a issue. But Drk combining CnS / Souleater (60 sec window mind you) was so game breaking it needed fixed.

    Honestly wouldn't be worth saving DA for CnS.. might as well take the extra mana for another Souleater combo.
    Hey! They got rid of the Raw Intuition crit heals too you know. They're not giving WAR special treatment. Also you can only crit fell cleave for that much about 2-3 times per 90 seconds (berserk CD). Still good, but WAR dps is very frontloaded and burst. DRK sustained DPS is still good because the skills have such high potency (500 pot Scourge vs 300 Pot fracture???). Also you can darkside while in tank stance, which is superb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorthos View Post
    So.... How much dps did we lose? I never did this tactic of dps before so I don't feel the impact like you all. Sounded like it was fun though.
    Right now, it's looking to be somewhere between 50-100 DPS. Although it might end up being considerably more.

    Quote Originally Posted by stoxastic View Post
    Hey! They got rid of the Raw Intuition crit heals too you know. They're not giving WAR special treatment. Also you can only crit fell cleave for that much about 2-3 times per 90 seconds (berserk CD). Still good, but WAR dps is very frontloaded and burst. DRK sustained DPS is still good because the skills have such high potency (500 pot Scourge vs 300 Pot fracture???). Also you can darkside while in tank stance, which is superb.
    DRK sustain sounds better until you run out of TP. Which happens astonishingly quickly.
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