DRK DPS?

[Zorthos]

Just curious to what numbers geared out DRK are currently pushing while tanking and off taking.

[Alphras]

This is the best I have found yet: https://youtu.be/39YR61lIIUU

Seems to me that the DRK is incredible TP starved.

Edit: This is without a NIN or WAR in the party btw.

[Faytte]

This is the best I have found yet: https://youtu.be/39YR61lIIUU

Seems to me that the DRK is incredible TP starved.

Edit: This is without a NIN or WAR in the party btw.

basically no different than a OT Paladin (infact, better given how many OGCD and free attacks you have).

I feel lots of DRKs are X DPS players that do not understand tp is an issue for all tanks. Wars just now got a TP refresher and one free gcd every 7-8 gcds, but paladins never have had a TP restore while OT.

[JayCommon]

Well I did a 3minute parse last night and did a consistent 700, but that was with sub-par str accs (mostly i136-142) and i180 weapon. I don't have the Hive Claymore yet. I had 820 strength. I have heard of another DRK on our server parsing in the 850 range with the Hive sword and i180 str accs.

But as Alphras sais, TP is a huge issue if a DRK is going into a raid with a PLD and is expected to DPS in off-tank stance. It's a good thing I agreed to do a 3min parse instead of the 5min one I wanted to do, because at the end of 3min I had 0 TP. Blood Weapon is a huge drain on TP and we have absolutely nothing to help gain it back. We can use magic to attack and regain our TP over time but that is a horrible DPS loss if your meant to be off-tanking and DPSing because the MP based GCD's are enmity based and don't have very high potencies.

[Zorthos]

I'm curious to what it would be like in raid. Maybe around 600-700?

[Hyunckel]

I'm curious to what it would be like in raid. Maybe around 600-700?

I managed a consistent 700 dps in the 3rd Heavensward trial against the 12 knights of the round table (lol). With full 180 gear (minus one 170 ring). That was actually facerolling for a FC friend who needed an instant queue for her story quest.

That was during the first 3 minute phase, I was out of TP at the end of it too lol

We are sooooooooooo TP starved it isn't even funny.

On a lv50dummy I do about 700 ish too IIRC.... I'm lacking so much sleep lately that I can't tell for sure. I derped quite a bit today in Bismarck EX lol.
But being able to do 400-450 dps while tanking stuff is pretty nice tho

Well, it's official, the Dark Arts dupe is gone. Our DPS just ended up taking a fairly sizeable hit because of it, and Dark Passenger is now a complete trap skill. The case used to be that you could eke out a bit of extra damage from Dark Passenger with good MP management before, but now Dark Passenger has no business being used in any capacity.

On the plus side, we no longer have to time our CaS/DPs for optimal damage, so DPSing became a little easier, since we might as well just fire them off whenever they come up, even if it did get worse overall.

With this gone, I'd like to see how DRK parses compared to the other tanks now.

I was wondering why I was struggling to go above 700 dps ... Well 700 is no brainer, but I was wondering how the hell that guy was doing 910 dps stable lol.

I just love how fast they were on Drk about this. While Warrior's are just crushing 5500-7k Fell Cleaves, SE doesn't see this as a issue. But Drk combining CnS / Souleater (60 sec window mind you) was so game breaking it needed fixed.

Only?



And here I was happy with my 2.5 K crits lol

Can't wait for warriors to be nerfed

[Kiteless]

Let's face it, most of the ex-DPS DRKs are probably gone right now. Most of the genuine concern I've seen is coming from career tanks who switched over. In fact, a lot of the people saying DRK is fine, I've noticed, comes from the same ex-DPS who don't really understand what it means to be a viable tank in higher end content.

[Delorean]

Let's face it, most of the ex-DPS DRKs are probably gone right now. Most of the genuine concern I've seen is coming from career tanks who switched over. In fact, a lot of the people saying DRK is fine, I've noticed, comes from the same ex-DPS who don't really understand what it means to be a viable tank in higher end content.

it comes from people who have been slaying internet dragons long enough to know that there are bigger problems in your raid if you are going to blame your lack of success or increased difficulty (to the point that you will not even invite player of said class to a group) on a class that developers designed to be viable to play in their game content

ppl gave me shit about being a WAR in 2.0 but it was like WHERE IS YOUR PLD GOD NOW when im soloing the last 15% of Ifrit and eating mountain busters like a champ

never gave a fuck and main tanked all of first coil and all that i did of second coil

Signed, a Pre-Inner Beast tweak & Vengeance Shield Wall, Trashsight popping WAR

[Hyunckel]

I did a new 2min35 parse and was at 740 dps stable while derping and not being able to chain two ogcd skills since muh european latency (145 ms ><)

That was with no food, no potions, no party buff, no party mumbers debuffing the dummy

ilv179

I was expecting more since I'm doing 700 dps more or less stable in some trials already o_O

You are only critting for 2.5k with full STR gear, a STR potion, a ilvl 190 weapon and a ninja debuff on Ravana EX in his vulnerable phase? Sorry I don't buy that.

Learn2read? I don't have a 190 weapon, no ninja debuffs, not doing ravana ex nor using str potions lol. I was just referencing my average day to day crits while doing random dungeons bra

And without all those conditions, Fel Cleave still hits harder than 2.5k lol. Especially since you have Maim + Storm's Path =)

I just recorded a 2645 Soul Eater crit on dummy lv50. (400 Potency)
I need to see how high can Carve and Spit can go.

[JayCommon]

I need to see how high can Carve and Spit can go.

The best C&S I've been able to crit on a training dummy with no other player buffs is around 3200. I was wearing all STR accs so my STR was at or close to 850. I have been learning Ravana as MT so I use Fending there, but I just got some nice i150 crafted accs that I'm going to try out in there tonight and see if I can crit something better on the vulnerable stage.