Is MCH really that bad?

[SelenaValariaux]

I am a 60 MCH and already quit the job

Just wait for the next patch, they'll soon buff it!! As someone said it's probably a good thing its a nerfed job right now, as it can only improve! (We hope anyway )

[AnimazArk]

I must be a bad player, But I find myself trying to do the main story quests with a MCH and fail just to switch it to a lower level PLD or SMN, I love the MCH, but I hope it get buffed soon

[Ryaz]

I'm currently ilvl 171 and though we may not be where we should be, I have no problems doing dungeons and don't foresee a problem with the EX primals. Heck, I've been outdpsing equally geared melee in some dungeons with GB on full time. Skill will always beat out class mechanics. That said, we're unfortunately getting a rep for low dps and some groups are kicking perfectly fine MCHs based purely on hearsay, even if they're more than capable of clearing the content. We definitely need some buffs, but I think all the doom and gloom that people are spreading is way overboard, especially if it's causing people to kick players based on their job without even seeing their actually skill.

[Ephier]

When tanks do more damage than you, yes you have a right to complain about your class as a DPS.

[Slappah]

I'm currently ilvl 171 and though we may not be where we should be, I have no problems doing dungeons and don't foresee a problem with the EX primals. Heck, I've been outdpsing equally geared melee in some dungeons with GB on full time. Skill will always beat out class mechanics. That said, we're unfortunately getting a rep for low dps and some groups are kicking perfectly fine MCHs based purely on hearsay, even if they're more than capable of clearing the content. We definitely need some buffs, but I think all the doom and gloom that people are spreading is way overboard, especially if it's causing people to kick players based on their job without even seeing their actually skill.

Sorry I can't even

[Ryaz]

Sorry I can't even

Yeah, it's not a raid. But at least dungeons are actual combat and not just stationary test dummies, which is where all the testing is being done. I also didn't mean hearsay like we don't have problems-- we do. But it's not bad enough to keep us out of Primal groups. Plenty of other MCHs have done them without issue.

And honestly, "Sorry, I can't even?" What are you, a 12 year old valley girl?

[Malevicton]

how much even could a white girl not if a white girl couldn't even even?

[Adventica6]

I suggest all mch to start using parser programs, if you want to see how bad it really is, when a boss's hp goes down, don't think it's because of you.

[Ryaz]

Really? We do absolutely no damage at all then? Must have been the paladin and white mage who downed the last boss in Nevereap when the DRG was pushed off the edge, then. And to think, I could have just sat there posing instead!

Yes, our dps is currently worse than some tanks (I've been hearing Warriors only, though) in optimal conditions on test dummies, and is in need of buffs, but it's not like we aren't contributing any damage. It's that kind of thinking that spreads around the community and gets MCHs kicked from groups. I'm not the best player in the world for sure, but I'll see if I can get a parser. Most people use ACT, right? Used to use that for The Secret World.

[RiceisNice]

In a nutshell. Yes machinist is pretty poor right now.

Is it bad to the point they need to be exluded from content? No. Far from it.

Should you take other classes over them as of now? If you desperately need tp/mp regen for progression, bard is probably your better bet right now.