Buff Bards or Riot

[codofwisdom]

Personally, I like the changes.
It gives some options to the bard players on how to play.
Think about it: Most of the time, Archery is very static in real life. Why, therefore, should the damage be equal whether we move or not?
That's the idea of Wanderer's Minuet. Rather than attacking automatically, we can methodically choose which skills to use, and allows us to ramp up damage by focusing on the shot.

My main issue is that the Wanderer's Minuet is really, really badly named. I understand what they were going for, but the skill is the exact opposite of wandering.

My issue is that I still want Bard to be more support based. Give me more ballads, more ways of supporting people in meaningful ways. Let MB have an effect on Darkside. Let us see people's TP, for feck sake.

[KylePearlsand]

Personally, I like the changes.
It gives some options to the bard players on how to play.
Think about it: Most of the time, Archery is very static in real life. Why, therefore, should the damage be equal whether we move or not?
That's the idea of Wanderer's Minuet. Rather than attacking automatically, we can methodically choose which skills to use, and allows us to ramp up damage by focusing on the shot.

My main issue is that the Wanderer's Minuet is really, really badly named. I understand what they were going for, but the skill is the exact opposite of wandering.

My issue is that I still want Bard to be more support based. Give me more ballads, more ways of supporting people in meaningful ways. Let MB have an effect on Darkside. Let us see people's TP, for feck sake.

Yes, yes and yes. Especially that last part. I can't tell you how much it annoys me when someone calls for tp without giving me a percentage so I'm not sure if they are trolling and making me lose dps/mp or really need it. A tp bar for everyone would be great!

[Kayote]

Think about it: Most of the time, Archery is very static in real life. Why, therefore, should the damage be equal whether we move or not?

Thats what ive been saying. I always thought it was ridicuous how BRD could shoot so well, play music AND run/jump around like Yoda on 10 cups of coffee. Mobility should be the MCH's thing from now on (/flamesuit)...

[KylePearlsand]

Thats what ive been saying. I always thought it was ridicuous how BRD could shoot so well, play music AND run/jump around like Yoda on 10 cups of coffee. Mobility should be the MCH's thing from now on (/flamesuit)...

That would be great and all but... Machinist has the same problem.

[Kayote]

That would be great and all but... Machinist has the same problem.

I know! Its a shame they made them such copies of each other. Not sure what the point was behind changing bard so much, only to make the new class be the same difference.

[codofwisdom]

Thats what ive been saying. I always thought it was ridicuous how BRD could shoot so well, play music AND run/jump around like Yoda on 10 cups of coffee. Mobility should be the MCH's thing from now on (/flamesuit)...

Well, Bards are talented individuals. The thing is that we STILL have the option of running around. We just have to give up the 20% damage boost, and a bunch of kickass skills.
It's almost as if we have to concentrate to activate these skills...

And yeah, I agree. MCH should be more mobile. They should also have a kind of sniper stance, but it makes more sense that they can run around. Hell, where do you think the term "Run and Gun" comes from?

EDIT: Also, apparently Yoshi has seen the massive outcry, and has informed us that stuff will be altered.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3090840

[Yoruichi4478]

Thats what ive been saying. I always thought it was ridicuous how BRD could shoot so well, play music AND run/jump around like Yoda on 10 cups of coffee. Mobility should be the MCH's thing from now on (/flamesuit)...

Go play something else if you don't like our mobility.

[Kayote]

Go play something else if you don't like our mobility.

No YOU play something else.

... I can be obnoxiously conservative, ignorant and dismissive of someone elses preferences too.

[Yoruichi4478]

No YOU play something else.

... I can be obnoxiously conservative, ignorant and dismissive of someone elses preferences too.

I have and I prefer being mobile and ranged thx^^ and seriously, relax that is the response of someone who couldn't think of a better one.
If dps had the mobility of TERA's dps I'd consider it but atm I'm doing my main bard and machinist when it's 60. Maybe ranger if they ever introduce that. Would love blu but that's not happening.