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    Player
    Yoruichi4478's Avatar
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    Kya Purrcy
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    Hyperion
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    yet 95% of people complainin about how bard is destroyed now are complaining about not being able to attack like used to while moving lolz

    just to use an example some1 in the FC im in ranted and whined for good hour yesterday about how bard is utterly destroyed n not worth playing cause cant attack while moving .. wanna know the funny side of it?? his/her bard was level 51 so how would he/she know??
    Perhaps they saw lvl 60 bards in action and saw that would be them soon enough?
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    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Empyreal Fate
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    lol really dont know why people are Q.Qing nothin wrong to the changes with bard imo.. every1 expects to be legolas these days?? run all around the place n still shoot some1 between the eyes?? the changes to bard now is actually is more like an archer than what it was b4
    No one is stopping you from being bow mage but I believe those of us who do not like being bow mage have the right to voice out as well

    There are some of us who plays a bard because it is the only mobile range dps class. If SE wants to change bard to be a bow mage, then so be it but give us another mobile dps class. I don't care if it has lower dps than the main dps dealers (DRG, MNK, NIN, SMN, BLM) but just give us the option of having a mobile dps class.
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    Last edited by FateAudax; 06-29-2015 at 04:08 PM.

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    Leyna Crosse
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    lol really dont know why people are Q.Qing nothin wrong to the changes with bard imo.. every1 expects to be legolas these days?? run all around the place n still shoot some1 between the eyes?? the changes to bard now is actually is more like an archer than what it was b4
    I am disinclined to agree. That was the fun of Bard, the fact you could move and have fun with it was part of its playstyle. Now I just feel like a BLM but w/o the power, and that right there should tell you that the Uniqueness of the class has been lost.

    I dont think this change would have bothered me half as much had they notified us well in advance so I could gear out and get comfortable playing a new main....
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    Last edited by Vespar; 06-29-2015 at 05:16 PM.

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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Having played both BRD and MCH at 60 and it is rather obvious that they slapped a MCH on the BRD lmao.

    If we were to talk about perm "casting" stance then MCH is much better at movement management than BRD because it has more different oGCDs at disposal and able to generate Slug Shot/Clean Shot procs that can be held on like how BLM uses Fire 3 procs in movements.

    BRD has... nothing.
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    Siveria Starfire
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    lol really dont know why people are Q.Qing nothin wrong to the changes with bard imo.. every1 expects to be legolas these days?? run all around the place n still shoot some1 between the eyes?? the changes to bard now is actually is more like an archer than what it was b4
    They are complaing because, the skill makes bards have to use a entirely diffrent playstyle, nevermind the fact the stance even with all the skills at 60, is barely is better than just not using it at all, insted all it does is turn us into a gimped to hell black mage wannabe. Now I will admit if you could autoattack with Wanderers on, I'd let the other stuff slide, but as it is the dps loss is far to big atm with the skill in its current state. All other dps get nice useful stuff, why was bard shafted so damned hard on the 52-60 skills? Its made me wanna just quit the game entirely because other than a pld, I got nothing else close to do the new content.
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    Kya Purrcy
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    lol really dont know why people are Q.Qing nothin wrong to the changes with bard imo.. every1 expects to be legolas these days?? run all around the place n still shoot some1 between the eyes?? the changes to bard now is actually is more like an archer than what it was b4
    Not really. Archers are always mobile and OP in their own right.
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    I'm fine with the skill.. I do think that maybe there should be a damage adjustment, whether upping the bonus WM gives, or giving bows less terrible weapon damage..

    But the whole sacrificing mobility for more power? Sure I'm fine with that.
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    With some testing, I found that Wanderer's Minuet actually resulted in a net LOSS of damage at level 52. Sure, you get that fancy 20% bonus on weaponskills, but you're losing auto attacks. My AA hits for about 50% of my Heavy shot / Bloodletter damage. WM only adds less than half that value to each attack and the delay between auto-attacks is basically identical to the recast times.

    That being said, given that there are two skills only usable in Minuet with significantly higher potency than our other attacks, I think that's the intended balance. For my part though, given that those skills are on longer recasts I'd probably toss up WM when they're available rather than try to maintain it for the entire fight. So far it seems Bard is just trading convenience for the sake of a single skill, Sidewinder.
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    Last edited by Lemuria; 06-29-2015 at 04:13 PM.

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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Always getting buffed:
    - Dragoon
    - Scholar

    Always getting nerfed:
    - Bard
    - White Mage
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    Kokotsu Kotsu
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    Masamune
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    ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ) wooo... calm down
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