Limit breaks should all do the same damage

[hallena]

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Deals 100 potency to primary target, then 300 potency split between all nearby targets.

SPLIT BETWEEN ALL TARGET
This right here is what make your suggestion shit.

Caster lb now : The more target the stronger it is. 2+ targets mean more damage than melee LB
Your suggestion : Same overall damage against one target or 4.
No thanks

[YanderePrincess]

You do more dps when you're not casting LB you know.

I'm pretty sure I don't do 20k+ damage in the time it takes me to use a LB, even if I had all my buffs going, and I make sure to use lb when my buffs are down, so I'm replacing a lull in my DPS with the massive spike that is the lb. Monks might be able to argue in favor of not wanting to lb, but that's only because of Greased Lightning.

[Extreme]

one day i will get to see dark knight lb, time to wait a decade >.>

[Humorless]

As long as you realize healer LB3 wouldn't raise the entire party anymore if everyone had their own LB.


LBs would just become boring and mandatory if every 4 man group spammed 12 of them every dungeon.

[Waliel]

Making caster LB work like Ricochet would be buff against single target, but a massive nerf against two or more. Why would you want that?

[pandabearcat]

I'm pretty sure I don't do 20k+ damage in the time it takes me to use a LB, even if I had all my buffs going, and I make sure to use lb when my buffs are down, so I'm replacing a lull in my DPS with the massive spike that is the lb. Monks might be able to argue in favor of not wanting to lb, but that's only because of Greased Lightning.

Its party dps not your personal dps, or honestly do you think any parsers are like, omg that guy did 500 more dps than anyone else cause he used the LB?

Every raid uses their worst dps to LB, this is what I mean.

I'm sure for personal reasons (like BotD and GL dropping, timer issues) many players would LOVE to have someone else LB.

Except if they like the animation. Which, you know, I do, I wanna use it. Also SMN can LB while losing pretty much zero personal dps.

This was just a fun suggestion guys, it isn't really meant to be a "this needs to happen" or completely balanced or anything.

I mentioned that it would make sense for caster LB to split damage because otherwise you would only ever use caster LB (not that I mind =P) and we'd have the reverse problem.

Maybe we could make it so that melee LB cleaves nearby targets. Ranged/caster AoE splits between all targets, but with an increased potency per target.

So melee would be used for clumped up adds, ranged/caster for spread out, and for single target you could use any.

[Dererk]

Screw all you dps stop whining what about us tanks we rarely if ever get to use our 3 bar limit breaks. Last bastion is always awesome to see but now I want to see the DRK one.

[pandabearcat]

I wonder, they always design encounters where there is usually a good place to use the dps limit break.

But why not design ones where you have to use the tank one?

Lets say there is a boss who has an aoe phase that does 120% of everyone's hp. You must use the tank one to survive.

Or one that just kills everyone except the healers (without durability loss, hopefully) and you have to use the healing LB.

I'd be okay with that. I'm kind of a LB communist.

[NovaLevossida]

And sacrifice a large chunk of the damage.
You know, the entire point of the thread?

Imagine a Ravana that has:
BRD
MCH
SMN
BLM

For DPS. This is entirely possible. You now lack a full strength Limit Break that could otherwise have allowed this party setup to beat a DPS check they might have been short of achieving normally.

My idea does not take away from the power of a melee LB, it just allows parties without melee Jobs to be just as effective as those that include a melee.
All this does is not "waste" a Limit Break because one of the ranged really wanted to finally see it in action. It just helps everyone, there are situations when a melee cant reach the target in time to get a proper Limit Break off, Such a change allows for a Ranged to cast it instead.

Hell, why not go the whole way and make the melee Limit Breaks work this way too, since its possible to get DF groups (and even statics) that lack a Ranged Job for AoE purposes.

Point is, everyone wins.

I never said the limit breaks should stay the same. I only said that currently if you have a melee, let the melee use it. If you don't have a melee, use the LB yourself. If you LB on one target while with a melee, you're wasting damage unless the melee is one of those who won't LB at all.

[ruskie]

I wonder, they always design encounters where there is usually a good place to use the dps limit break.

But why not design ones where you have to use the tank one?

Lets say there is a boss who has an aoe phase that does 120% of everyone's hp. You must use the tank one to survive.

Or one that just kills everyone except the healers (without durability loss, hopefully) and you have to use the healing LB.

I'd be okay with that. I'm kind of a LB communist.

Ultima HM. So far the only one where a tank lb is really required.