Limit breaks should all do the same damage

[pandabearcat]

Now hear me out, LB's all do the same total damage.

Ranged/Caster LB spread damage amongst all targets. So single target they all do the same damage.

Why?

Cause I wanna use my LB as a SMN, and I've never had the chance to outside of Ifrit way back in the day.

Yep =(

[Geologo]

I think your idea is totally wrong. u.u
So I suggest you to ask to buff new LBs for the 1st month so people will use only them,
Who care about Meteor or Final heaven?

Pfff they are so 2.0 u.u

[NovaLevossida]

Ranged/Caster LB spread damage amongst all targets. So single target they all do the same damage.

I'd be okay with that if only for not getting irritated at the bards hitting the LB right as soon as it pops up but before I can get back in range on a melee job from avoiding an AoE. I know you want to feel like you're dealing some damage, but wait the one extra second and let someone else use a real LB.

[Sylve]

I'd be okay with that if only for not getting irritated at the bards hitting the LB right as soon as it pops up but before I can get back in range on a melee job from avoiding an AoE. I know you want to feel like you're dealing some damage, but wait the one extra second and let someone else use a real LB.

Except those lucky DF parties that do not have a melee DPS to use the "Real LB".

I support the OPs request.
In fact, set it up much like Ricochet works on a MCH;
Deals 100 potency to primary target, then 300 potency split between all nearby targets.
If only one target is within the radius of the effect, the full 400 potency is dealt to the one target.

Therefore, Ranged LBs are as strong as Melee LBs but ONLY when striking a single target.

[Torunya]

Except those lucky DF parties that do not have a melee DPS to use the "Real LB".

I support the OPs request.
In fact, set it up much like Ricochet works on a MCH;
Deals 100 potency to primary target, then 300 potency split between all nearby targets.
If only one target is within the radius of the effect, the full 400 potency is dealt to the one target.

Therefore, Ranged LBs are as strong as Melee LBs but ONLY when striking a single target.

All of my yes.

[NovaLevossida]

Except those lucky DF parties that do not have a melee DPS to use the "Real LB".

I support the OPs request.
In fact, set it up much like Ricochet works on a MCH;
Deals 100 potency to primary target, then 300 potency split between all nearby targets.
If only one target is within the radius of the effect, the full 400 potency is dealt to the one target.

Therefore, Ranged LBs are as strong as Melee LBs but ONLY when striking a single target.

Except what? If they don't have a melee, use the limit break. Simple, simple, simple.

[Sylve]

Except what? If they don't have a melee, use the limit break. Simple, simple, simple.

And sacrifice a large chunk of the damage.
You know, the entire point of the thread?

Imagine a Ravana that has:
BRD
MCH
SMN
BLM

For DPS. This is entirely possible. You now lack a full strength Limit Break that could otherwise have allowed this party setup to beat a DPS check they might have been short of achieving normally.

My idea does not take away from the power of a melee LB, it just allows parties without melee Jobs to be just as effective as those that include a melee.
All this does is not "waste" a Limit Break because one of the ranged really wanted to finally see it in action. It just helps everyone, there are situations when a melee cant reach the target in time to get a proper Limit Break off, Such a change allows for a Ranged to cast it instead.

Hell, why not go the whole way and make the melee Limit Breaks work this way too, since its possible to get DF groups (and even statics) that lack a Ranged Job for AoE purposes.

Point is, everyone wins.

[NovaLevossida]

And sacrifice a large chunk of the damage.
You know, the entire point of the thread?

Imagine a Ravana that has:
BRD
MCH
SMN
BLM

For DPS. This is entirely possible. You now lack a full strength Limit Break that could otherwise have allowed this party setup to beat a DPS check they might have been short of achieving normally.

My idea does not take away from the power of a melee LB, it just allows parties without melee Jobs to be just as effective as those that include a melee.
All this does is not "waste" a Limit Break because one of the ranged really wanted to finally see it in action. It just helps everyone, there are situations when a melee cant reach the target in time to get a proper Limit Break off, Such a change allows for a Ranged to cast it instead.

Hell, why not go the whole way and make the melee Limit Breaks work this way too, since its possible to get DF groups (and even statics) that lack a Ranged Job for AoE purposes.

Point is, everyone wins.

I never said the limit breaks should stay the same. I only said that currently if you have a melee, let the melee use it. If you don't have a melee, use the LB yourself. If you LB on one target while with a melee, you're wasting damage unless the melee is one of those who won't LB at all.

[Ryaz]

I personally think everyone should have their own limit break bar that fills up during the fight and allows special attacks when they come into play. Not as powerful as they are now, of course, but it would allow something cool and unique to each class without worrying about who's using it. Personally, I think that would have been better than what we have now which is 90% used by melee, 5% by blms for AoE, 4% by healers and tanks to avoid a wipe, and 1% for others. It's just badly implemented.

It's pretty sad when you see a bard do a level 3 lb on Ravana hard mode and it barely does a sliver of damage.

[MrSmiley]

I hope I someday get to see satellite beam